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  • Adobe Sounds Off About Lack of iPad Flash Support


    There was one small hitch in Steve Jobs' polished presentation on Wednesday as he demoed the new iPad. When he used the device to load the New York Times website, he (apparently) inadvertently navigated to a page with Flash content. The large blue Lego icon projected on the big screen at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts was like an announcement of what had long been expected: the iPad will not support Flash.

    Adrian Ludwig, Flash Marketing Manager for Adobe expressed his dismay in a frustrated post - called "Apple's iPad -- a broken link?"
    - on the Flash Platform blog.

    It looks like Apple is continuing to impose restrictions on their devices that limit both content publishers and consumers. Unlike many other ebook readers using the ePub file format, consumers will not be able to access ePub content with Apple's DRM technology on devices made by other manufacturers. And without Flash support, iPad users will not be able to access the full range of web content, including over 70% of games and 75% of video on the web.

    If I want to use the iPad to connect to Disney, Hulu, Miniclip, Farmville, ESPN, Kongregate, or JibJab -- not to mention the millions of other sites on the web -- I'll be out of luck.
    Adobe has moved to get Flash content onto the iPhone despite Apple's lack of support by developing the forthcoming Packager for iPhone tool which will convert Flash content into apps that can run on the iPhone, and the company said that a future version of the tool will also work for the iPad's 1024 x 768 screen.

    "It is our intent to make it possible for Flash developers to build applications that can take advantage of the increased screen size and resolution of the iPad," Adobe AIR for Mobile Manager Michael Chou said on the blog. "We are looking for developers and designers who have a specific app in mind to be submitted to the iTunes App Store within the next two months."

    According to Adobe, 98 percent of desktop computers currently support Flash, and version 10.1, presently in beta, will run on Windows Mobile, webOS, Android, Symbian and BlackBerry. Apple has consistently blocked the software from running on the iPhone and iPod, most analysts believe, because it would take away business from its App Store, allowing consumers to play games and run other content from a browser. Clause 3.3.2 of the iPhone SDK agreement prohibits Flash or any other "self-executing" code from the iPhone:

    An Application may not itself install or launch other executable code by any means, including without limitation through the use of a plug-in architecture, calling other frameworks, other APIs or otherwise. No interpreted code may be downloaded and used in an Application except for code that is interpreted and run by Apple’s Published APIs and built-in interpreter(s).
    Packager for iPhone will be included with the upcoming release of Adobe Flash Professional CS5, with Packager for iPad to follow later in the year.

    image via Engadget
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Adobe Sounds Off About Lack of iPad Flash Support started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 47 Comments
    1. StealthBravo's Avatar
      StealthBravo -
      Quote Originally Posted by Dumi View Post
      So... What you saying is that i will have to walk aroung with my laptop, iPad, mobile phone and iPod Touch???

      What is your point on iPad in between all this?!
      I won't pretend to figure out where this product will work with your everyday life. As for me, the only product I carry everyday for sure is my iPhone. I dont use iPods anymore because I have all that on my iPhone. I do not like to take my 2k MBP with me all the time. My MBP does everything that I want out of a device but the portability of it makes me leave it at home unless I know I need it that day. Now there are many times that my iPhone is sufficient for internet surfing and watching television over the slingbox, but there are many times that I would like a larger screen to do those things. I think I would have no issue throwing the iPad in my messenger bag and break it out when I have time to kill. I do enjoy reading internet articles and online magazines and I think I would prefer to read from the iPad while lying in bed at night.

      I do not see the iPad as a necessity item like my iPhone or MBP, but I think that I would get a lot of use for it for $499

      Quote Originally Posted by A.T View Post
      Lol, you're one of the biggest Apple fanboys ever, you'll always come up with an excuse to defend what Apple does. Don't think flash will come in 4.0 either, even if it does it won't come to the iPhone 3GS or 3G or 2G.

      The iPad sucks with or without flash, it does no more than a iPhone 3GS, It doesn't fit into my pocket and if I want to put it in my bag. I'll get an MB or some other laptop. Here with currency conversion, the iPad will be a rip off and not worth the money at all. Why would any buy a giant iPod when you can get a PC tablet.
      Read my above post. Where did I say "A.T you must buy this product and here is why". Every post that I have written in favor of the iPad has been stating ways that I think it could help out in my life. If you would do at least do me the courtesy of reading my posts before calling me names I would appreciate it.
    1. Virushan's Avatar
      Virushan -
      Quote Originally Posted by A.T View Post
      Lol, you're one of the biggest Apple fanboys ever, you'll always come up with an excuse to defend what Apple does. Don't think flash will come in 4.0 either, even if it does it won't come to the iPhone 3GS or 3G or 2G.

      The iPad sucks with or without flash, it does no more than a iPhone 3GS, It doesn't fit into my pocket and if I want to put it in my bag. I'll get an MB or some other laptop. Here with currency conversion, the iPad will be a rip off and not worth the money at all. Why would any buy a giant iPod when you can get a PC tablet.

      wow you must really hate apple! what did the apple ever do to you. Your such a hypocrite. You urself said that the iPhone is a part of you..
    1. opiak's Avatar
      opiak -
      html5!
    1. StealthBravo's Avatar
      StealthBravo -
      Quote Originally Posted by qgshadow View Post
      You are just trying to justify why you are buying it for sure.
      You do not weigh pros and cons of a product before purchasing? Or do you just look at the negatives of every thing? I hear you, I want flash as much as the next guy. I hope that it will either be provided by Apple or that the lack of it in the iPad is enough to spark some dev to go ahead and figure out a way to bring flash to the iPhone. I really want flash but its not a total deal breaker for me. Just like I won't get rid of my iPhone because the lack of flash.
    1. battlecrushr's Avatar
      battlecrushr -
      They are rite
    1. southfrisco's Avatar
      southfrisco -
      Our new creation!



      It is revolutionary and magical! You want multitasking, here you go...four quadrants of magical, revolutionary bliss.
    1. qgshadow's Avatar
      qgshadow -
      Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post
      You do not weigh pros and cons of a product before purchasing? Or do you just look at the negatives of every thing? I hear you, I want flash as much as the next guy. I hope that it will either be provided by Apple or that the lack of it in the iPad is enough to spark some dev to go ahead and figure out a way to bring flash to the iPhone. I really want flash but its not a total deal breaker for me. Just like I won't get rid of my iPhone because the lack of flash.
      Even Apple is biasing their advertising.

      iClarified - Apple News - Apple Official Video Shows iPad Running Flash?

      Maybe its good for your business showing off an Ipad Instead of High Quality Pictures to your clients. But for most of us this product is completly useless. And dont count on a Jailbreak. Because they probably made that Chip to prevent this.
    1. gthugballin's Avatar
      gthugballin -
      Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post

      I do not see the iPad as a necessity item like my iPhone or MBP, but I think that I would get a lot of use for it for $499
      .

      I agree with you, and you have solid reasons for buying it. (i gave it a 3/10 but i'm just bitter cuz of no flash, i'm still getting one) lol but the 499 version ^__^ i'm sure your gonna get the 799 one

      (this message is playful not intended to make fun or anything)
    1. StealthBravo's Avatar
      StealthBravo -
      Quote Originally Posted by qgshadow View Post
      Even Apple is biasing their advertising.

      iClarified - Apple News - Apple Official Video Shows iPad Running Flash?

      Maybe its good for your business showing off an Ipad Instead of High Quality Pictures to your clients. But for most of us this product is completly useless. And dont count on a Jailbreak. Because they probably made that Chip to prevent this.
      I know what you mean. I think this product will not be a success with the demographic of this forum. Yea, the A4 is going to be fun but there is lot of excitement going on among the hacking devs at the moment because it may have the same flaws as the current iphone 3gs which everyone thinks is locked up tight.

      Quote Originally Posted by gthugballin View Post
      I agree with you, and you have solid reasons for buying it. (i gave it a 3/10 but i'm just bitter cuz of no flash, i'm still getting one) lol but the 499 version ^__^ i'm sure your gonna get the 799 one

      (this message is playful not intended to make fun or anything)
      haha. lol @ the disclaimer

      Yea I am bitter about flash too. I will be getting the 64gb version on release day
    1. MetallicaFan1991's Avatar
      MetallicaFan1991 -
      Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post
      Read my above post. Where did I say "A.T you must buy this product and here is why". Every post that I have written in favor of the iPad has been stating ways that I think it could help out in my life. If you would do at least do me the courtesy of reading my posts before calling me names I would appreciate it.
      Sorry, I kinda see where your coming from but I still think the iPad is expensive for the hardware it has and 16GB for $499 is a rip tbh. No way you can have movies, music and them iPad specific apps which I assume will be pretty large files and games as well so 16GB is insufficient. Becomes more expensive for the 64GB with 3G, wouldn't you rather pay $100 more and get a MB which is a million times better?
      I wouldn't mind it as a gift but I think next year we will see a true Mac Tablet so I will just wait for that or the 3rd gen of the iPad.
    1. Mes's Avatar
      Mes -
      Ever since the iPod became a world-wide hit, Apple forgot their 'consumer' first attitude. Since then, it's been 'their way, or the hi-way'. Remember 10-15 years ago with Apple almost a 'penny stock'? The iPad, iBoot 3Gs tethered, DRM, bluetooth, copy/paste, the endless list...... Apple needs a healthy dose of reality!!
    1. southfrisco's Avatar
      southfrisco -
      Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post
      I think this product will not be a success with the demographic of this forum.
      I might buy the $499 WiFi only device. Just wish it had 32GB instead of just 16GB. I would mainly use it for an eReader as I've been looking at them lately. I also can see a use for it at home when I want to read things away from a desk on a bigger screen. Even when I travel I can see using it in my hotel room for reading the iBooks and articles on the internet with the hotel wifi. I won't be taking it out to restaurants or Starbucks as I have an iPhone but there is a use for those that don't have too many gadgets (all I have is a desktop and iPhone).

      I think peoples minds might change once it is jailbroken and devs start producing much more useful applications for the community outside of the Apple guarded walls of sanctuary. Might take a year though.

      I definitely won't be buying on release. I am waiting to see what the next iPhone will have before I make a decision.
    1. whereswaldo's Avatar
      whereswaldo -
      farmville, lol
    1. lolcats1's Avatar
      lolcats1 -
      Quote Originally Posted by wilsongeorge View Post
      farmville, lol
      green day, lol
    1. awesomeSlayer's Avatar
      awesomeSlayer -
      At least it will be good for later iPad users...
    1. lolcats1's Avatar
      lolcats1 -
      Quote Originally Posted by awesomeiPod View Post
      Please do not mess with longtime and smart MMi Members when they are speaking the truth.
      but this is quite obviously the most entertaining function of this forum
    1. battlecrushr's Avatar
      battlecrushr -
      Lolcats I swear ur like the new zeal. Haha
    1. Bluprint's Avatar
      Bluprint -
      Quote Originally Posted by z3r01 View Post
      well, see u half a year from now...as for me...do i really need flash? not really..im not gonna cry about it..plus html5 is shaping up now.
      do you really need flash.... are you serious? 75% of all the web's video is flash based c'mon dude get off apples seeds
    1. battlecrushr's Avatar
      battlecrushr -
      Actually 95%
      haha
    1. Bluprint's Avatar
      Bluprint -
      Quote Originally Posted by StealthBravo View Post

      Yea I am bitter about flash too. I will be getting the 64gb version on release day
      Since you like throwing money away please pm me, I wouldn't mind getting an ipad if you threw money my way, perhaps then you can have someone to share the same "good points" as yours.

      IMO Apple needs to apply a bigger HD, flash support, and an OS that's not just for dummies. And for my own personal preference I would like to see a blu-ray player and some usb ports.