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  • Apple Offers Additional Insight Regarding Touch ID Functionality


    An Apple spokesperson recently told The Wall Street Journal that the iPhone will only store data used to recognize fingerprints rather than actual images amidst fear about the security of Apple’s new Touch ID fingerprint sensor. According to the spokesperson:

    Apple's new iPhone 5S, which comes with a fingerprint scanner, won't store actual images of users' fingerprints on the device, a company spokesman confirmed Wednesday, a decision that could ease concerns from privacy hawks.

    Rather, Apple's new Touch ID system only stores "fingerprint data," which remains encrypted within the iPhone's processor, a company representative said Wednesday.

    In practice, this means that even if someone cracked an iPhone's encrypted chip, they likely wouldn't be able to reverse engineer someone’s fingerprint.
    For those of you who don’t already know, Touch ID was a new security feature announced at the recent iPhone media event. The feature is built into the home button of the next-gen iPhone 5S and is designed to allow users to unlock their phones and authorize iTunes purchases with a finger scan. The sensor captures a high-resolution image of a fingerprint analyzing it to provide accurate readings.

    Apple was quick to specify that all fingerprint information is encrypted and stored “in the Secure Enclave inside the A7 chip on the iPhone 5S” rather than being stored on Apple servers or backed up to iCloud. Developers are also not given access to user fingerprints as a means of authentication as another measure of security.

    The Cupertino California company also gave The Wall Street Journal a few other bits of information on the fingerprint sensor, noting that it does occasionally malfunction with moist fingers or fingers scarred by accidents and surgery. The company also explained that the Touch ID must be supplemented with a passcode. Apple mentioned the following regarding the matter:

    Apple customers who wish the use Touch ID also have to create a passcode as a backup. Only that passcode (not a finger) can unlock the phone if the phone is rebooted or hasn’t been unlocked for 48 hours. This feature is meant to block hackers from stalling for time as they try to find a way to circumvent the fingerprint scanner.
    The iPhone 5S with the new Touch ID functionality is set to be released to consumers on September 20. Those of you interested in purchasing the next-gen iPhone will have to remember that Apple isn’t accepting pre-orders for the device so you’ll have to go pick it up in the store the day of its release.

    What are your thoughts of the Touch ID functionality?

    Source: The Wall Street Journal
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Apple Offers Additional Insight Regarding Touch ID Functionality started by Akshay Masand View original post
    Comments 32 Comments
    1. thazsar's Avatar
      thazsar -
      Quote Originally Posted by zeroskater61 View Post
      Why are ppl making a big deal
      about this I mean I could see why but it's just like the pass code unlock we all currently have on are iPhones Its an option we have to lock are iPhones so its totally up to the person if they want to use the finger print feature or not no one is forcing you to use it if you do decide to get the iPhone 5s its just an option and am sure they'll still keep the 4digit Pass code or the password for those who want to keep using those methods of lock/unlock.
      Phone companies are being pressured by the government to create more secure ways to protect personal data. Apple stepped up and made this! That's why it's such a big deal!!! It's cool and secure at the same time!
    1. bry2k2's Avatar
      bry2k2 -
      Just one more way to have your iphone hacked if you lose it or its stolen, yet another security flaw waiting to happen for i users.. Also don't think I want apple recording my fingerprints into its database (and don't think they haven't thought of it because they probably are/have)
    1. thazsar's Avatar
      thazsar -
      Quote Originally Posted by bry2k2 View Post
      Just one more way to have your iphone hacked if you lose it or its stolen, yet another security flaw waiting to happen for i users.. Also don't think I want apple recording my fingerprints into its database (and don't think they haven't thought of it because they probably are/have)
      So....
      It's safer if we lose it without a Passcode or Fingerprint recognition?!?!
      Your statement makes no sense and I'm pretty sure the Feds are spying on you right now! Relax...
    1. BUcLAo69's Avatar
      BUcLAo69 -
      I'm pretty sure it will have it in the Settings somewhere either to disable or enable it and I can't wait to get my hand on one as well . I love the new Homescreen button it blend it in with the iPhone 5S so perfectly. Just a matter of times until it goes on sale and will definitely upgrade for one ...
    1. xhazex9x's Avatar
      xhazex9x -
      Quote Originally Posted by Buddy17 View Post
      Are you kidding me?? You obviously have no background on material properties. The HARDER a material is, the more BRITTLE that same material is. Brittle = cracks!!

      And second, Lifeproof cases are so popular because they are waterproof......so how exactly do you make a case waterproof without covering up the home button??
      calm down im sure they'll figure something out theyre not just gonna stop making iphone cases
    1. NewdestinyX's Avatar
      NewdestinyX -
      Quote Originally Posted by thazsar View Post
      Phone companies are being pressured by the government to create more secure ways to protect personal data. Apple stepped up and made this! That's why it's such a big deal!!! It's cool and secure at the same time!
      YES! Finally some real innovation from Apple again. Tim Cook made a 'little' comeback in my book with this fingerprint thing. No other phone hardware out there has this yet. He still missed the boat with the 5C's pricing though.. Though the plastic coating and color thing is VERY "Steve Jobs-ian'"..
    1. dsg's Avatar
      dsg -
      biometrics is not innovation, it's been around a while, though Apple's implementation is probably the best yet
    1. NewdestinyX's Avatar
      NewdestinyX -
      Quote Originally Posted by dsg View Post
      biometrics is not innovation, it's been around a while, though Apple's implementation is probably the best yet
      Read carefully, please, dsg. Biometrics "used on the home button of a mobile phone for the purpose of secure entrance to one's mobile phone" IS innovation by Apple. No mobile phone hardware company has done it yet toward the same ends. Period.
    1. dsg's Avatar
      dsg -
      ok your right, the way Apple has done it is unique, but it's still just a fingerprint sensor used to secure a computer, a.k.a nothing new here

      Edit: Motorola used a fingerprint sensor on one of they're phones, this was mentioned in another thread
    1. NewdestinyX's Avatar
      NewdestinyX -
      Quote Originally Posted by dsg View Post
      ok your right, the way Apple has done it is unique, but it's still just a fingerprint sensor used to secure a computer, a.k.a nothing new here

      Edit: Motorola used a fingerprint sensor on one of they're phones, this was mentioned in another thread
      Not with Apple's level of implementation. The Motorola phone is a child's toy in comparison. People are always wanting to take away Apple's claim to true innovation. Someone's gonna eventually chime in and tell us that some other company had the idea of a windows based personal computer before Apple.. Or someone else innovated the idea of a touch GUI for a SmartPhone.. Ugh..

      Let's be clear.. Apple innovates, and others copy. That's the way it's always been and always will be. The only time they let us down was in letting Microsoft be the first to market with a Tablet/Laptop combo. Jobs would never have let that happen.

      But I hear you, dsg.. All good .
    1. Nuff Said's Avatar
      Nuff Said -
      Quote Originally Posted by NewdestinyX View Post
      Not with Apple's level of implementation. The Motorola phone is a child's toy in comparison. People are always wanting to take away Apple's claim to true innovation. Someone's gonna eventually chime in and tell us that some other company had the idea of a windows based personal computer before Apple.. Or someone else innovated the idea of a touch GUI for a SmartPhone.. Ugh..

      Let's be clear.. Apple innovates, and others copy. That's the way it's always been and always will be. The only time they let us down was in letting Microsoft be the first to market with a Tablet/Laptop combo. Jobs would never have let that happen.

      But I hear you, dsg.. All good .
      I'm an apple fanboy myself but let's be real. It's not an original idea and probably won't be too popular amongst other smart phones such as Siri or YouTube on a mobile platform. More recently I'd even say Samsung has been more innovative than apple.
    1. recognition's Avatar
      recognition -
      Anybody notice how many fingerprint scanner apps there are in the Google Play store?!
      Looks like some Android users want this feature too but shame they have to fake it! Lol!
      https://play.google.com/store/search...=apps&hl=en_GB