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  • Apple: You Sue Us? We'll Sue You!


    Following a lawsuit by Motorola accusing Apple of patent infringement, Apple has gone ahead and filed two lawsuits of its own against Motorola in US federal court. The suit claims that Motorola has copied some of Apple's fundamental intellectual property in regard to the multi-touch interface on the Droid and other phones.

    According to the lawsuit, which was filed on October 29 in the US District Court for the Western District of Wisconsin, Apple alleges in two separate actions, that Motorola has infringed six of its patents in their Droid, Droid 2, Droid X, Cliq, Cliq XT, BackFlip, Devour A555, Devour i1, and Charm 1 phones. The first case involves multi-touch technology, including patents on "Ellipse Fitting for Multi-Touch Surfaces," "Multipoint Touchscreen" and "Object-Oriented System Locator System. The second case is primarily operating system-level intellectual property, and accuses Motorola of violating Apple's patents on "Touch Screen Device, Method, and Graphical User Interface for Determining Commands by Applying Heuristics," "Method and Apparatus for Displaying and Accessing Control and Status Information in a Computer System," and "Support for Custom User-Interaction Elements in a Graphical, Event-Driven Computer System."

    Earlier this month, Motorola had sued Apple in the US District Court for the Northern District of Illinois and the Southern District of Florida and also filed a complaint with the US International Trade Commission, saying that Apple had refused to buy licenses for Mototrola technology despite lengthy negotiations. In a separate action, Motorola also filed suit to prevent Apple from suing them for infringing 12 patents... even though Apple never accused Motorola of doing so. None of those 12 patents are part of the lawsuit filed Friday.

    Source: 9to5Mac
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Apple: You Sue Us? We'll Sue You! started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 27 Comments
    1. sziklassy's Avatar
      sziklassy -
      I personally think there is a fundamental flaw in the way we work patents. It seems a little ridiculous to me to be able to patent something like multi-touch gestures. Pinch to zoom, swipe, etc. should not be patentable, period. The idea of patents has been around for centuries. The problem is that the law has seen little to no updates in this field. Simply put it is incredibly outdated and companies like Motorola and Apple use it to their advantage any time they can. One such example is patenting every idea under the sun in hope that something eventually sticks and becomes a money maker.
    1. Tyronal's Avatar
      Tyronal -
      Quote Originally Posted by sziklassy View Post
      I personally think there is a fundamental flaw in the way we work patents. It seems a little ridiculous to me to be able to patent something like multi-touch gestures. Pinch to zoom, swipe, etc. should not be patentable, period. The idea of patents has been around for centuries. The problem is that the law has seen little to no updates in this field. Simply put it is incredibly outdated and companies like Motorola and Apple use it to their advantage any time they can. One such example is patenting every idea under the sun in hope that something eventually sticks and becomes a money maker.
      Hang on a sec. Nobody thought of multitouch before Apple and Apple then went onto develop it and give it to its users. It is their idea, no? Yet that guy that used to work for MS patented a rather broad and flimsy idea of functions inside a browser, years ago, but never developed it or provided it for anyone to use. Now he comes out and sues all the companies that use these functions with their browser, except who? MS. That's what's wrong with the patent laws. Patents should have an expiry date if they haven't been developed within say 3-5 years. Patent banking is just a fraud and will only stymie development if it's not stopped.

      Multitouch belongs to Apple. Period.
    1. blueblaze4444's Avatar
      blueblaze4444 -
      Quote Originally Posted by VBLUE42 View Post
      I think some of you miss the point here. It really doesn't matter if Apple secured a patient on something you think shouldn't be able to be patented. The fact is, they secured the damn patient and they can sue anyone they see fit for violating it. My guess is they knew Moto violated it over a year ago but just didn't pull the trigger. This is done specifically for situations like this. Moto fired first when Apple stole there patient so Apple is just countering so Moto will realize it isn't worth it. This is purely a strategic move to stall and fizzle both law suits and both will settle or drop the suits. Business as usual people. Now, if you want to flame an organization for a patient, the patient board is who you need to go after. Don't blame Apple for being able to sell the patient board into their application.
      That whole reply was intelligent except for the fact that you wrote "patient" instead of "patent"
    1. Psylok's Avatar
      Psylok -
      No iPhones does not have any motorola chips. Motorola is not the special chip manufacturer who once used to dominate the market. Other companies like samsung infineon intel broadcom etc are now into the cellphones. Motorola would never had a good CPU if it wasn't for IBM. So drop this candy that Motorola builds everything. You need to start opening - repairing more cellphones.
    1. athleticswimmer's Avatar
      athleticswimmer -
      apple smart....when some one drops the bomb on them!! they catch it and throw it back!!! but it wasnt more of a bomb but more like fireworks.
    1. jfmherokiller-iphone's Avatar
      jfmherokiller-iphone -
      Geez I never thought irony was in the legal world this proves me wrong.
    1. StealthBravo's Avatar
      StealthBravo -
      Quote Originally Posted by athleticswimmer View Post
      apple smart....when some one drops the bomb on them!! they catch it and throw it back!!! but it wasnt more of a bomb but more like fireworks.
      haha pretty much