• Your favorite

    Apple

    ,

    iPhone

    ,

    iPad

    ,

    iOS

    ,
    Jailbreak
    , and
    Cydia
    site.
  • Apple to Eliminate the SIM Card?


    There's an unconfirmed report out today claiming that Apple is working with a major SIM card maker to build an integrated chip directly into the device that would eliminate the need for carrier SIMs. This would let Apple do an end-around not only on carriers - enabling customers to buy phones directly from Apple and then activate their phones on the App Store with the carrier of their choice - but also on unlockers as well.

    GigaOM's Stacey Higginbotham quotes sources inside European carriers as saying that Apple is working with the Dutch SIM manufacturer Gemalto on a SIM chip with expandable flash and ROM. The ROM would have "data provided by Gemalto with everything related to IT and network security" while the flash storage would "receive the carrier related data via a local connection which could be the PC or a dedicated device." So the chip would work as a sort of soft-SIM, allowing an iPhone user to activate their phone on any network that supports Gemalto technology. The ease of switching, as Higginbotham notes, may turn out to be a "nightmare" for carriers.

    The strategy seems not only directed at making iPhones more carrier independent - especially valuable in Europe where no carrier has a monopoly in any country - but also as a way to crack down on unlocking. With Gemalto, and Apple, at the heart of the activation process, iPhones would only be able to operate on carriers that are specifically permitted to carry the device.

    Gemalto was also in the news recently after filing a patent infringement lawsuit against Google last week. Gemalto developed Java Card back in the 90s, and patented technology enabling apps to be executed in resource limited devices like smart cards. Gemalto claims that the Dalvik virtual machine used in Android improperly includes Java Card technology, and names mobile-phone makers HTC, Motorola and Samsung as well as Google in its lawsuit.

    Source: GigaOM
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Apple to Eliminate the SIM Card? started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 65 Comments
    1. itzpsychopath's Avatar
      itzpsychopath -
      Blah not gonna happen, if so HTC here i come
    1. javiert30's Avatar
      javiert30 -
      Quote Originally Posted by umkthxbye View Post
      Yeah I will be switching to droid phones too if this ever happens. The Sim card is a life saver for saving contacts onto, makes the whole contact transferring process so easy. This is just Jobs trying to be Hitler with his dictatorship.
      What?
    1. modbo's Avatar
      modbo -
      I say bring it on and let the masters (hackers) do their jobs to perfection.
    1. ThinkTank's Avatar
      ThinkTank -
      Quote Originally Posted by westerman View Post
      Because apple as a company is doing it right there not having to out source so much and making products ppl want. We buy them it seems no matter what they come out with because it's top of the line and good quality
      You are joking right? Do you know how jobs apple will create if the iphone was made in the US? With same pay they pay the Chinese? Get ur a hole out of apple ***. No outsourcing? Read more fan boy
    1. fventura03's Avatar
      fventura03 -
      Quote Originally Posted by umkthxbye View Post
      Yeah I will be switching to droid phones too if this ever happens. The Sim card is a life saver for saving contacts onto, makes the whole contact transferring process so easy. This is just Jobs trying to be Hitler with his dictatorship.
      you should use an exchange server to back up your contacts, like google.

      you can only save the name and number onto sim card, but on google's exchange server i save their picture, secondary numbers, email address, facebook profile, etc...

      it's more convenient and there's no risk of loosing everything if you loose your phone with the sim card.
    1. CynicalDriver's Avatar
      CynicalDriver -
      I'm good with this actually. I had to replace my 3G because it stopped recognizing the sim. It was under warranty, but it's a MAJOR pain in the *** to route to an Apple store when you're away from home. Luckily I was only 200 miles from the nearest one when my phone did this.

      Nothing like a 400 mile round trip waste of time, when you're working and have no way to let anybody know what's going on. Just try finding a pay-phone now-days! I had to borrow a random person's Moto Crpr, ugh!

      Oh! And you can't get warranty replacements/work at AT&T stores, you HAVE to go to an APPLE store or send it in.

      With it being built in, that problem will not happen. Besides, someone will crack the code and unlock it anyway.
    1. romeo_herman's Avatar
      romeo_herman -
      Quote Originally Posted by milkycloud View Post
      If this happens... the iPhone is dead
      If this happens Jobs is already dead.....
    1. ShaverZBT's Avatar
      ShaverZBT -
      No SIM? No iPhone. Verizon sucks! If that happens, Droid here I come!
    1. Sk8r789456's Avatar
      Sk8r789456 -
      Finally maybe they will have a removable battery
    1. EskimoRuler's Avatar
      EskimoRuler -
      Quote Originally Posted by umkthxbye View Post
      Yeah I will be switching to droid phones too if this ever happens. The Sim card is a life saver for saving contacts onto, makes the whole contact transferring process so easy. This is just Jobs trying to be Hitler with his dictatorship.
      i dont think i would switch because im not one that needs an unlock, but i agree with the rest of your statement
    1. pachi1972's Avatar
      pachi1972 -
      I still don't know why people are using iphones on a non 3g carrier...
    1. KingRichard's Avatar
      KingRichard -
      Stupid concept and wont work on International provider. Because if that happen nobody will use iPhone for their mobile device especially for those who travel alot.

      Also I dont think the international provider will allow this to happen cause if this happen then their prepaid card customer will be perish forever...
    1. Dark Angel's Avatar
      Dark Angel -
      I agree with those that think that is an outrages idea. Obviously this defeats the purpose of a "world phone" that should theoretically allow easy access to local sim cards(prepaid or not) from around the world to be readily applied when travelling. Already, the micro sim causes problems in some parts of the world since they are not readily available, luckily the "sim cutter" has bridged that gap.
      If Apple was to take on this angle they are limiting the iphone and it will no longer be a world phone and hence lose out on their customers who are international travellers.
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      I highly doubt this will come to fruition. There are just too many obstacles in regards to travel. Possible? Sure. Plausible? Absolutely not.


      Sent from my iPhone using ModMyi
    1. adityadx's Avatar
      adityadx -
      they have so many patents and they dont do anything with it its useless to even blog about it as they dont implement anything
    1. hila47's Avatar
      hila47 -
      Quote Originally Posted by theomer View Post
      no I agree.. Hitler curbed and controlled caloric intake of the Jews... just like Israel's blockade of the Gaza strip, Steve is slowly removing the enjoyment and freedom calories from his devices.
      the holocaust will be the iPhone 5, and the allied troops are called Droid.

      Viva Palestine
      viva your axx,
      you are so stupid, keep your words for yourself,
      i'm sending you with all my love this "F" word.. bye bye
    1. Effenpig!'s Avatar
      Effenpig! -
      Quote Originally Posted by pachi1972 View Post
      I still don't know why people are using iphones on a non 3g carrier...
      Why? Well, in my area you can have a legit AT&T account and pay out the nose for "3G", it won't do you any good though, since there is no 3G coverage anywhere near me. And the best part is, AT&T edge around here runs around 6 - 9 Kbps!!!!!

      So why would anyone have AT&T on a non "3G" carrier?

      Because with my local carrier I pay half of what AT&T costs for a comparable package, and my edge data speeds are consistently in the 200kbps range!!!
    1. ifonemaniac's Avatar
      ifonemaniac -
      This is why I switched from the iPhone to the EVO. This phone is so much better and its on a 4G network. Yeah you pay that additional 10$ but its unlimited. Unlike ATT and T-Mobiles new 5gb cap. Not trying to troll around but I want more idevice users to see the beauty of android.

      (Sent on my rooted EVO 4G)
    1. dswabster's Avatar
      dswabster -
      I know SIM cloning or ghosting is illegal, I think putting a programable SIM in an iPhone may cause more issues than fix once the security protecting that is compromised
    1. Effenpig!'s Avatar
      Effenpig! -
      Quote Originally Posted by ifonemaniac View Post
      This is why I switched from the iPhone to the EVO. This phone is so much better and its on a 4G network. Yeah you pay that additional 10$ but its unlimited. Unlike ATT and T-Mobiles new 5gb cap. Not trying to troll around but I want more idevice users to see the beauty of android.



      (Sent on my rooted EVO

      4G)

      My area has no AT&T 3G, no sprint 4g, verizon has coverage but the speed is just sad. My local carrier just got a 35 million dollar grant to provide high speed coverage in the area. They just got the samsung galaxy s and I was checking it out. It will probably be about a year until they get their system upgraded, and then it only makes sense for me to switch to an android device to take advantage. I love my iPhone but, cmon, I don't think anybody can blame me!!!