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  • iPhone 5C May Drop Siri, Munster Suspects


    In order to create a low-cost, entry level iPhone capable of giving Apple a bigger footing in the emerging mobile markets around the world, something's got to give. For the rumored plastic iPhone - the so-called iPhone 5C - the iDevice maker may have to make concessions on Siri.

    Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster tells investors that he believes the 5C will sell for $300 or less when introduced next month. The iPhone 4S will effectively be retired as the low-end model in Apple's portfolio and replaced by the iPhone 5C.

    An odd prediction? Indeed. But Munster suspects Apple will lose Siri as a means to reduce the internal muscle - and cost - of the "plastic iPhone," which appears to be the biggest consideration for Apple on this forthcoming device.

    With regard to the iPhone 5S, Munster's expectations differ very little from other analysts.

    Munster's expectations for the next-gen iPhone are "minimal." He said he believes the new phone will feature a fingerprint sensor as a way to unlock the screen. But he doesn't think the sensor will allow users to tap into secure mobile payments. Instead, he said he sees such a feature debuting in the next version of iOS in 2014.
    Current chatter indicates that Apple's iPhone 5C and 5S may be unveiled on September 10th.

    Source: CNET
    This article was originally published in forum thread: iPhone 5C May Drop Siri, Munster Suspects started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 13 Comments
    1. bigboyz's Avatar
      bigboyz -
      ...and there is where Apple saves a few $$ which allows this phone to be cheaper. Faster and better camera that's about it for the 5S. I think the 5C may do better..at least you have more than two color choices :]
    1. slim.jim's Avatar
      slim.jim -
      Isn't most of Siri processing done on the server? That is why you could install Siri on an iPhone 4 when jailbroken and it worked fine if you had a valid device key from a 4s device. Only issue is it expired every 24hrs.
    1. severe's Avatar
      severe -
      Most of what's mentioned in this article was mentioned in the the article posted 12 hours before it. There's also a shitstorm of contention regarding the use of Siri in the previous article.
    1. Jahooba's Avatar
      Jahooba -
      Such a strange thing to remove. I guess that would cut down on server usage if there's a super-flood of iPhone 5C's sold.
    1. slim.jim's Avatar
      slim.jim -
      Quote Originally Posted by Jahooba View Post
      Such a strange thing to remove. I guess that would cut down on server usage if there's a super-flood of iPhone 5C's sold.
      It is very strange since the removal of Siri would be a 2yr step backwards. But on the other hand it might be make it more enticing for people to get the 5s.
    1. oneduality's Avatar
      oneduality -
      Cutting Siri makes no sense to me. Even my old iPod and iPad were able to run Siri with jailbreak tweaks. It's not like the hardware is unable to support Siri so I don't understand how this will save Apple any money.

      The only thing it could do is offer an incentive to buy a better phone.. That theory just doesn't make sense to me ... I think they are more likely to make the new cheap version with a lower grade camera and no finger print sensor .. that would actually save apple in production cost.. Siri has been out for a while now so releasing a new product that lacks this feature is silly.

      And this is off topic but for some strange reason when I log in I only see the first comment but when I log out I see all comments.. What gives?
    1. jOnGarrett's Avatar
      jOnGarrett -
      iPhone 5-cheap users don't have to worry about not having Siri because there is a better alternative. Google Now., or Google Search for iOS users.
    1. StuG III's Avatar
      StuG III -
      Quote Originally Posted by jOnGarrett View Post
      iPhone 5-cheap users don't have to worry about not having Siri because there is a better alternative. Google Now., or Google Search for iOS users.
      Try harder man.

      Anyway the iPhone 5Cheap is cutting out features for a reason. My guess is when it's released the 5S will be more (if not much more expensive) than the previous iPhone 5 when it was first launched. But customers seeing how crappy the 5C is they'll force themselves to buy a more expensive device. Kinda bs if you ask me.
    1. bradmullins007's Avatar
      bradmullins007 -
      Quote Originally Posted by StuG III View Post
      Try harder man.

      Anyway the iPhone 5Cheap is cutting out features for a reason. My guess is when it's released the 5S will be more (if not much more expensive) than the previous iPhone 5 when it was first launched. But customers seeing how crappy the 5C is they'll force themselves to buy a more expensive device. Kinda bs if you ask me.
      Very interesting. Could it be that $649 16gb Iphones are a thing of the past? This could very well be the case but if so I'd say the Galaxy and HTC One will increase exponentially in popularity.
    1. TooSlo's Avatar
      TooSlo -
      Quote Originally Posted by StuG III View Post
      Try harder man.

      Anyway the iPhone 5Cheap is cutting out features for a reason. My guess is when it's released the 5S will be more (if not much more expensive) than the previous iPhone 5 when it was first launched. But customers seeing how crappy the 5C is they'll force themselves to buy a more expensive device. Kinda bs if you ask me.
      To be fair, Google Now provides a much better UX over Siri.

      The hurdle will be processing power and how developers adapt to whatever hardware is used in this device. I could see a LOT of low ratings showing up for apps when this is released due to overinflated expectations from users.
    1. peacedog's Avatar
      peacedog -
      There has to be some catch with the iPhone 5C. Companies do not build new products to save consumers money. It's as simple as that. Look at the hybrids and electric cars. "WOW YOU CAN SAVE A TON ON GAS." But you are just paying upfront when you look at the sticker price.
    1. Amadomon's Avatar
      Amadomon -
      It makes perfect sense that they'd cut out Siri. "She" depends on a network infrastructure that Westerners take for granted but which just doesn't exist in the markets Apple is trying to sell this phone in.
    1. StuG III's Avatar
      StuG III -
      Very interesting. Could it be that $649 16gb Iphones are a thing of the past? This could very well be the case but if so I'd say the Galaxy and HTC One will increase exponentially in popularity.
      I hate to say it but if apple is going to try squeezing people for more money I think it will lose customers.

      To be fair, Google Now provides a much better UX over Siri.
      I agree, but as the saying goes, "don't feed the trolls."

      There has to be some catch with the iPhone 5C. Companies do not build new products to save consumers money. It's as simple as that. Look at the hybrids and electric cars. "WOW YOU CAN SAVE A TON ON GAS." But you are just paying upfront when you look at the sticker price.
      Of course. Like a car manufacturer makes a few different types of models (utility, sports, sedan etc), Apple is trying to take over more of the market by covering the desires of the market. It's all about profit, it's at no benefit to us, which is sort of contradictory to my car manufacturer example.

      It makes perfect sense that they'd cut out Siri. "She" depends on a network infrastructure that Westerners take for granted but which just doesn't exist in the markets Apple is trying to sell this phone in.
      You're right! Didn't think about that.