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  • Mainstream Media Catches Verizon iPhone Fever


    The rumor that just won't die crossed over from the tech blogosphere to the heart of the mainstream media this week, with reports on the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times both claiming that Verizon will get the iPhone next year. While obviously it's all hearsay at this point, we are talking about two of the most prestigious papers in the US, which would be unlikely to go with a story they hadn't very carefully checked out. The reports cover the same information, but the Journal story was quietly changed after it was published, deleting any mention of Verizon's CDMA network and referring only to an "alternative wireless technology used by Verizon," which could refer to the carrier's new 4G network based on LTE.

    The Wall Street Journal published a report on Wednesday that began "Apple Inc. plans to begin mass producing a new iPhone by the end of 2010 that would allow Verizon Wireless to sell the smartphone early next year." The story by Yukari Iwatani Kane and Ting-I Tsai went on to say that "the new iPhone would be similar in design to the iPhone 4 currently sold by AT&T Inc. but would be based on an alternative wireless technology called CDMA used by Verizon." By Thursday morning, though, the story on the Journal's website had changed to begin with the flat statement that "AT&T Inc. is about to lose its lock on the iPhone," as opposed to the more ambiguous "would allow" from the earlier version, and emphasized in the following paragraph that the agreement with Verizon that would "end an exclusive deal with AT&T."

    Additionally, the updated article omits any reference to CDMA, except for a reference to an earlier report in March. Instead, the rewritten piece talks only about an "alternative wireless technology." Now, maybe it was just an editorial decision to change the wording up for style reasons, but the fact that the specific statement about Verizon was added and the specific statement about CDMA was removed suggests that the writers got new information. And in terms of "alternative wireless technologies," it makes a lot more sense for Apple to build a new phone compatible with Verizon's new Long Term Evolution (LTE), than it would to build in support for CDMA, which is a dying standard. AT&T - as well as T-Mobile and a host of other carriers around the world - is also transitioning to the new standard, which offers up to ten times faster data rates than AT&T's UMTS 3G system (and even more improvement over Verizon's creaky EV-DO network, which can't even support simultaneous voice and data). Verizon's LTE network will be available in 38 cities in the US, reportedly reaching 110 million people by the end of this year. AT&T is currently field testing its LTE network in Baltimore and Dallas, and it's supposed to go live by mid-2011, initially covering 70 to 75 million people.

    The New York Times didn't add any specific details, other than to report the same story in its own amusing old-school style (writing CDMA as C.D.M.A. and referring to Apple's CEO as "Mr. Steven P. Jobs"). However, it did say it had confirmed the story with "a person in direct contact with Apple… who agreed to speak on condition of anonymity because the plans were supposed to be confidential and he did not want to alienate his contacts at Apple." The Times is such an authoritative source of news that by the end of the day, the story had been picked up by newspapers throughout the US, which all reported as fact that "Apple Inc. plans to make a version of its popular iPhone 4 available through Verizon Wireless by early next year."
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Mainstream Media Catches Verizon iPhone Fever started by Paul Daniel Ash View original post
    Comments 31 Comments
    1. JonnyBoy123's Avatar
      JonnyBoy123 -
      Quote Originally Posted by datomicpenguin View Post
      If the droid is so good then why does everyone that has Verizon want the iPhone?
      I'm with u on that one!
    1. Tario70's Avatar
      Tario70 -
      I think this article makes the most realistic points about an iPhone on Verizon...

      http://m.gizmodo.com/5658529/keep-ho...izon-iphone-4g
    1. JacquesChirac's Avatar
      JacquesChirac -
      are we still talking about this? [yawwnn]
      it's really not going to change anything and it's not like it's a new product
    1. Rob2G's Avatar
      Rob2G -
      Sprint should get the iPhone. No verizon.
    1. HarlemState's Avatar
      HarlemState -
      They said it's goin to be the same model, maby verizon is switchin to 4g sims, hmmm, over all verizon sucks, been ATT befor it was even cingular, never had any problems,
    1. A_SWELLGUY's Avatar
      A_SWELLGUY -
      Quote Originally Posted by sub zero View Post
      I'm starting to lose faith in this site's writers.
      Couldn't have said it better....
    1. yuntanman's Avatar
      yuntanman -
      I have always said that eventually the iphone will be available to other carriers whether it be Verizon or T-mobile or Sprint. The reason why I speculated it would be Verizon is b/c they are the market leader in the cell phone industry in the US. The reason why this didn't happen earlier is b/c the iphone can not be supported on Verizon's network currently to the capacity that Apple has advertised. Apple advertises fast download speeds, and voice and data can be utilized at the same time. Verizon currently can not say they do either of these claims. AT&T's 3g speeds are by far the fastest compared to any carrier. Sprint has gone 4g, but in a very STUPID way in my opinion. Sprint's 4g network has been around for how long now? and they only offer what 3 phones that are 4g compatible? Let me tell you why. Where the norm all around the world for 4g speeds is LTE, Sprint had decided to take another route into 4g that is an unpopular choice, and cellphone manufacturers are not going to waste money on a phone that will only work on ONE carrier in the US, unless they truly believe that it is the best way to achieve 4g speeds. SO in my opinion Spring it cooked. Why Verizon is a smart choice is b/c they are going to be utilizing LTE technology and is planning on being in 38 major cities with LTE coverage if I remember correctly. What LTE will do for Verizon is voice and data at the same time, and Amazing internet speeds. The problem I see with Verizon going LTE is the fact their backbone network that covers MOST of the US is CDMA. why is that a problem you may ask? Well if I am correct, LTE and CDMA is NOT backwards compatible. WHat does this mean? Well if your driving in your car of example, and your in a LTE area and as your driving you enter a 3g(CDMA) area, your call WILL DROP! This is the similar effect that AT&T faced when they went from TDMA to GSM, and till this day AT&T is SCARRED with a bad reputation of DROPPED calls. Now i am sure that Verizon's BRILLIANT network guys will figure a way not to drop calls or minimize the rate at which calls are dropped but this is a problem nonetheless.

      For all the people that never thought another carrier would get the Iphone in the future, think about it. You as a business owner, wouldn't it be smarter to sell your product to other wireless carriers so you can have a better threshold on the market? As long as the other carriers can hold up to your Claims on what your product can do why wouldn't you? and that is what Verizon is doing, they are working on their network, and in turn will be able to have their phones do what Apple advertises. I am not saying that Verizon is changing their network only for the iphone b/c that is a silly assumption, but the reason why they are changing their network is b/c their network is capped as far as data speeds are concerened. Verizon's 3g internet speed on average is 3x's slower that AT&T's, and still can not support data and voice at the same time, SO they know and understand a change is needed and LTE is their change. The reason why AT&T isn't going LTE first is plain and simple. AT&T runs on a GSM network and the network is still capable of reaching faster download and upload speeds with network enhancements, and also Verizon is the industry leader in the US for wireless needs so shortly after Verizon deploy AT&T will do so as well with 2 main advantages. GSM is backwards compatible with LTE, and if Verizon makes any mistakes AT&T and learn and correct those mistakes.

      As far as which carrier to go with, that is up to you. If Verizon works better in your area then your going Verizon, if AT&T works better then your going AT&T.

      The main reason I wrote this, is b/c I am tired of AT&T being perceived as the bad guys and Verizon as the saints. I have been an AT&T customer since they were Cellular One, and I haven't had any issues. Yes I will drop a call here and there and yes some places I may not get reception but the same can be said about ANY other wireless carrier. For all the people that cried about why doesn't Verizon have the iphone yet, well this post will answer that for you. Verizon's current network would never of been able to handle the iphone's data load with the same user experience that AT&T has offered and thats the bottom line. If you think other wise, well everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but I am sure what I have said is very close to the truth, and is only my opinions, but my god it feels good to express how I feel =0).
    1. EskimoRuler's Avatar
      EskimoRuler -
      ill believe when i see it on the apple site
    1. thetoothfairy's Avatar
      thetoothfairy -
      Quote Originally Posted by sub zero View Post
      I'm starting to lose faith in this site's writers.
      Look at where some of the info comes from... Wall Street Journal and New York Times....

      Quote Originally Posted by leathelisor View Post
      If the iphone goes to verizon I think that Messany will go back n laugh at everyone (me included) who called him a verizon fanatic
      I think he owes it to many if the iPhone goes to Verizon!
    1. veagus's Avatar
      veagus -
      I was in a Verizon store a couple days ago (gf has Verizon). The salesman told me Verizon's official stance is no iPhone... but unofficially a CDMA version will be out at the end of the year or January. Then in June or July 2011, a 4G/LTE version with a sim card will be released...sorry if this is old news.
    1. andygev35's Avatar
      andygev35 -
      Quote Originally Posted by yuntanman View Post
      I have always said that eventually the iphone will be available to other carriers whether it be Verizon or T-mobile or Sprint. The reason why I speculated it would be Verizon is b/c they are the market leader in the cell phone industry in the US. The reason why this didn't happen earlier is b/c the iphone can not be supported on Verizon's network currently to the capacity that Apple has advertised. Apple advertises fast download speeds, and voice and data can be utilized at the same time. Verizon currently can not say they do either of these claims. AT&T's 3g speeds are by far the fastest compared to any carrier. Sprint has gone 4g, but in a very STUPID way in my opinion. Sprint's 4g network has been around for how long now? and they only offer what 3 phones that are 4g compatible? Let me tell you why. Where the norm all around the world for 4g speeds is LTE, Sprint had decided to take another route into 4g that is an unpopular choice, and cellphone manufacturers are not going to waste money on a phone that will only work on ONE carrier in the US, unless they truly believe that it is the best way to achieve 4g speeds. SO in my opinion Spring it cooked. Why Verizon is a smart choice is b/c they are going to be utilizing LTE technology and is planning on being in 38 major cities with LTE coverage if I remember correctly. What LTE will do for Verizon is voice and data at the same time, and Amazing internet speeds. The problem I see with Verizon going LTE is the fact their backbone network that covers MOST of the US is CDMA. why is that a problem you may ask? Well if I am correct, LTE and CDMA is NOT backwards compatible. WHat does this mean? Well if your driving in your car of example, and your in a LTE area and as your driving you enter a 3g(CDMA) area, your call WILL DROP! This is the similar effect that AT&T faced when they went from TDMA to GSM, and till this day AT&T is SCARRED with a bad reputation of DROPPED calls. Now i am sure that Verizon's BRILLIANT network guys will figure a way not to drop calls or minimize the rate at which calls are dropped but this is a problem nonetheless.

      For all the people that never thought another carrier would get the Iphone in the future, think about it. You as a business owner, wouldn't it be smarter to sell your product to other wireless carriers so you can have a better threshold on the market? As long as the other carriers can hold up to your Claims on what your product can do why wouldn't you? and that is what Verizon is doing, they are working on their network, and in turn will be able to have their phones do what Apple advertises. I am not saying that Verizon is changing their network only for the iphone b/c that is a silly assumption, but the reason why they are changing their network is b/c their network is capped as far as data speeds are concerened. Verizon's 3g internet speed on average is 3x's slower that AT&T's, and still can not support data and voice at the same time, SO they know and understand a change is needed and LTE is their change. The reason why AT&T isn't going LTE first is plain and simple. AT&T runs on a GSM network and the network is still capable of reaching faster download and upload speeds with network enhancements, and also Verizon is the industry leader in the US for wireless needs so shortly after Verizon deploy AT&T will do so as well with 2 main advantages. ...........
      Holy Overkill, Batman!!