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  • P0sixninja May Have Something "Bigger Than a Jailbreak" Coming in the Future


    iOS hacker p0sixninja, also known as Joshua Hill, has Tweeted saying that he has been working on something that he thinks will be "bigger than a jailbreak." According to the hacker, there are many great things about to come, and they’re all coming soon.

    A few months back, the hacker noted that the next jailbreak, possibly for iOS 7, may be completed by Hill himself, but since Hill believes what he is working on will be bigger than a jailbreak release, we already know a jailbreak isn't what Hill is hinting about on Twitter.

    After a follower of Hill had asked the hacker for a hint about what he was working on, Hill said “I can get a copy of any Apple internal firmware, also known as signed version of ssh of telnet.”

    Hill also responded to a Tweet that said, “embedded software development tools!” by saying, “that's only part of it. Although I could use more developers. 3 isn't enough.”

    Obviously the details are very interesting, but also vague. We expect to see that Hill will have lots of support from the jailbreak community as he works on his projects and we are excited to see what he may release in the future. We will keep you updated on any details as they arise.

    Sources: p0sixninja via iClarified
    This article was originally published in forum thread: P0sixninja May Have Something "Bigger Than a Jailbreak" Coming in the Future started by Anthony Bouchard View original post
    Comments 71 Comments
    1. KraXik's Avatar
      KraXik -
      Quote Originally Posted by Silverado1987 View Post
      Bigger than a jail break. My guess is you can update any firmware and not lose your jailbreak.
      Amazing!!!!! Permanent jailbreak!!
    1. Om3r's Avatar
      Om3r -
      Guys what's bootrom exploit exactly?? it is different from the other method they found to jailbrake?
    1. iVex's Avatar
      iVex -
      The only thing which could be greater than a jailbreak at this point would either be a bootrom exploit, multiboot options or adding the possibility to do as Android does with custom roms: Change power consumption through optimalizing processes and kernels etc.

      I'm definitely stoked about what it could be. Let the daydreaming commense!
    1. Simon's Avatar
      Simon -
      Quote Originally Posted by Om3r View Post
      Guys what's bootrom exploit exactly?? it is different from the other method they found to jailbrake?
      Basically what it means is that to patch it Apple would have to change the hardware on their devices, they couldn't simply patch it with a software update like the more recent jailbreaks.
    1. alirz's Avatar
      alirz -
      i think he figured out how to have an ipsw installed in a way on the device that there is no need for JB after that.. It perhaps gets installed as a fully open OS on the device.
    1. 2k1's Avatar
      2k1 -
      I'm sure anything he has will be wonderful for sure.
    1. 01grander's Avatar
      01grander -
      I am kind of hoping for the ability to run Android. A few have tried in the past but that would be epic.
    1. Spyruf's Avatar
      Spyruf -
      Quote Originally Posted by thazsar View Post
      People are tweeting 'bootrom exploit' but I have a feeling this is deeper than that...

      I'm wondering if he's discovered an unpatchable exploit that's found in all firmwares and is required by Apple when they create their ipsw file. Apple would have to completely rewrite how they create firmwares which would be counterproductive considering all the iDevices already sold. Lastly, Apple might not even be able to locate the exploit!
      I don't think it is that because that still has to do with jailbreak and is very similar. I think it's something different and a lot bigger then jailbreak.
    1. Jato_BZ's Avatar
      Jato_BZ -
      Quote Originally Posted by Om3r View Post
      Guys what's bootrom exploit exactly?? it is different from the other method they found to jailbrake?
      For A5 devices up e.g 4S/ipad3/iPhone5 have required Userland exploits e.g bugs/holes/vulns in the actual firmware (software) . Apple just have their chip architecture so dam tight that Bootrom exploits cannot be found in the chips/hardware ATM. Or if they have been found have been kept quiet/private to the JB Devs themselves.Which is understandable really.

      A Bootrom exploit would be a jailbreak users dream come true. Plus with the VFDecrypt keys u could extract that devices firmware (IPSW) & get a look in before a public JB is released. This is easily possible with the A4 IPSW. But it's getting outdated with no SIRI support & additional features/functionality. 12hrs after iOS7 Beta dropped the VFDecrypt Keys were up (http://theiphonewiki.com/wiki/Main_Page) you could pull the entire A4 IPSW to pieces...via the limera1n bootrom exploit.

      Sadly a Bootrom exploit hasn't been found since 2010 and with no VFDecrypt keys. So it's looking unlikely but not impossible.
    1. jber's Avatar
      jber -
      Send this man money!
    1. thazsar's Avatar
      thazsar -
      Quote Originally Posted by tekwiz View Post
      He's figured out a way to let everyone downgrade when needed.
      Now that I think about this, it could have something to do w/ downgrading. He has signed versions of all iOS firmwares which he might be able to distribute legally. Good call!
    1. CaliRican415's Avatar
      CaliRican415 -
      I am guessing he found a way to customize the iOS and a way to load it on your iPhone without needing to be signed. Similar to the android ROM software..

      It would be like going to Cydia and looking at the themes to download but instead you have the option to change your stock rom to a customized rom from other developers.

      If this guy can get this this going he deserves a large donation from everyone!!
      Time release the beast on this iPhone.
    1. thazsar's Avatar
      thazsar -
      Quote Originally Posted by Spyruf View Post
      I don't think it is that because that still has to do with jailbreak and is very similar. I think it's something different and a lot bigger then jailbreak.
      Hypothetically, if my idea was correct, its not just for jailbreaking (or Cydia, as you might be referring to). It would allow Root access whenever a firmware is released. This immediately gives full control of the system...with or without Cydia.
    1. feidhlim1986's Avatar
      feidhlim1986 -
      Bigger than Jailbreak......Android Jelly Bean installed on iDevice.
    1. whoismezero's Avatar
      whoismezero -
      Perhaps he is working with Apple to create a "jailbreak" that does not exploit a security hole. This would be a lot bigger than a jailbreak. And it would explain how he can get signed versions of internal software.
    1. xhazex9x's Avatar
      xhazex9x -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ambi_Valence View Post
      Listen to that. He's a knob and so are you judging by that response. We must all draw the line somewhere, and he's crossed it.
      Shutup loser no one cares
    1. bobsco's Avatar
      bobsco -
      Whatever it is, I'm sure it'll be awesome.......
    1. babyydaveyy's Avatar
      babyydaveyy -
      Whatever it is, I'm sure it won't be out until next year......
    1. robbpell's Avatar
      robbpell -
      I know I'm a little late to the thread, but if it were some miracle all firmware jailbreak wouldn't he just say that?
      A bootrom exploit would be patchable so why would he just say that too, (possible 5s), my biggest concern is bigger than jailbreak! This is a bold claim, I've been doing this since the command prompt days and I'll be damned if i ever heard the day something would top this, alas I shall sit back and wait to have my mind blown. or be instilled with disappointment. (remember the biggest thing to happen with Apple, the Beatles?!?! )
    1. StayyyFlyyy's Avatar
      StayyyFlyyy -
      I bet it's lame as fuhhhhh