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  • Officials Cautiously Optimistic with iOS 7 Anti-Theft Features


    Many of the vocal critics of Apple’s efforts to prevent mobile theft device including the Attorneys General of San Francisco and New York are seemingly a bit more optimistic in the wake of Apple’s unveiling of a new anti-theft mechanism. Both New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman and San Francisco Attorney General George Gascón have made headlines over the past several months calling out Apple and other smartphone industry players for not doing enough to deter the theft of mobile devices. Both have recently shown a change of heart and said they’re encouraged by the new Activation Lock Apple will be adding to iPhones and iPads with the new iOS 7. The two prosecutors told the Associated Press the following in a joint written statement:

    Originally Posted by :
    We are appreciative of the gesture made by Apple to address smartphone theft. We reserve judgment on the activation lock feature until we can understand its actual functionality.
    According to the Federal Communications Commission, nearly one out of every three robberies nationwide involves a mobile phone. The two prosecutors say that smartphone manufacturers could virtually eliminate the market for stolen phones by building the ability to render the devices useless when stolen. Apple appears to have developed a such a technology if the company’s WWDC claims are true. The new Activation Lock feature, according to Apple will keep a phone from being activate even if a thief wipes the device’s memory entirely. Additionally, iPhones and iPads have a Find My iPhone feature that will display the device’s approximate location on a map.

    Both Gascón and Schneiderman have invited Apple and other smartphone makers to attend a Smartphone Summit this week in New York, where attendees will discuss ways to prevent smartphone theft. Representatives from Apple, Google, Microsoft, and Samsung have agreed to attend the meeting, which will take place this upcoming Friday. Gascón says the ball is entirely in the smartphone makers’ court when it comes to stopping mobile device theft. He made the following remarks about the topic:

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    With 1.6 million Americans falling victim to smartphone theft in 2012, this has become a national epidemic. Unlike other types of crimes, smartphone theft can be eradicated with a simple technological solution.
    What do you think of the new security solution Apple has put into place?

    Source: Associated Press
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Officials Cautiously Optimistic with iOS 7 Anti-Theft Features started by Akshay Masand View original post
    Comments 34 Comments
    1. k1dr0ck's Avatar
      k1dr0ck -
      Quote Originally Posted by thazsar View Post
      So maybe its as simple as disabling FMI when you're buying/selling an iDevice!
      problem is if you wipe your phone it needs the icloud password to activate it which is most likely you'll do when selling it

      a keyfile requirement instead of a password would have been great
    1. cheaposity's Avatar
      cheaposity -
      I hope there is no whatsoever option to downgrade from ios7 to ios6 , Will this option be enable during restore too , I am currently using the Beta one and have restored my Phone twice it no option showed up to activate phone to downgrade , so if the phone is stole any one can restore in DFU mode isnt it ???
    1. b1997469's Avatar
      b1997469 -
      This Anti-Theft is FRIGGIN!!! ANNOYING!!!
      I get asked 3 times to put in my password everytime I load up iTunes now.
      Bit of an overkill if you ask me.
      Typical Apple. When they do things they do it all wrong and pi$$ off its users. The more Apple does the better Android and Google look.
    1. thazsar's Avatar
      thazsar -
      Quote Originally Posted by cheaposity View Post
      I hope there is no whatsoever option to downgrade from ios7 to ios6 , Will this option be enable during restore too , I am currently using the Beta one and have restored my Phone twice it no option showed up to activate phone to downgrade , so if the phone is stole any one can restore in DFU mode isnt it ???
      During Beta phases, you're able to downgrade because Apple isn't officially 'signing' at that time. Once iOS 7 is public, no more downgrade.

      So yes....right now your phone can be stolen and used

      Quote Originally Posted by k1dr0ck View Post
      problem is if you wipe your phone it needs the icloud password to activate it which is most likely you'll do when selling it

      a keyfile requirement instead of a password would have been great
      Curious why you say this. If I were to sell a phone on ios 7+, I would disable FMI (taking my ownership off the phone) then restore my phone. At that point, I'm not worried about activating it. That's the buyers responsibility, right?
    1. iBanks's Avatar
      iBanks -
      Quote Originally Posted by thazsar View Post
      So maybe its as simple as disabling FMI when you're buying/selling an iDevice!
      That would be correct.

      Quote Originally Posted by cheaposity View Post
      I hope there is no whatsoever option to downgrade from ios7 to ios6 , Will this option be enable during restore too , I am currently using the Beta one and have restored my Phone twice it no option showed up to activate phone to downgrade , so if the phone is stole any one can restore in DFU mode isnt it ???
      DFU mode works as usual, it will bypass everything else and allow the restore it seems like. When I placed my device in DFU, iTunes noticed and prompted to download 6.1.4 software to restore and began to download it with no problem. The good, people outside of the jailbreak scene have no clue of DFU mode. The bad, you lose your phone and someone from the jailbreak scene gets it, then your device now belongs to them.
    1. thazsar's Avatar
      thazsar -
      Quote Originally Posted by iBanks View Post
      That would be correct.



      DFU mode works as usual, it will bypass everything else and allow the restore it seems like. When I placed my device in DFU, iTunes noticed and prompted to download 6.1.4 software to restore and began to download it with no problem. The good, people outside of the jailbreak scene have no clue of DFU mode. The bad, you lose your phone and someone from the jailbreak scene gets it, then your device now belongs to them.
      I'm just curious if Apple has done something deeper than this example. Is it a completely separate location that's been created in which DFU can't touch. I guess we'll have to wait to see what the Devs discover
    1. iBanks's Avatar
      iBanks -
      Quote Originally Posted by thazsar View Post
      I'm just curious if Apple has done something deeper than this example. Is it a completely separate location that's been created in which DFU can't touch. I guess we'll have to wait to see what the Devs discover
      I'm tempted to do an complete DFU restore on my device to test it, may see about it later. I wonder if a later version of iTunes will detect DFU mode and not preform the restore without individual typing in Apple ID credentials first.
    1. x13dk's Avatar
      x13dk -
      Well I am guessing the right now theft are stealing more iPhone before iOS 7 release to public
    1. Lohand's Avatar
      Lohand -
      Where is this meeting place? I would like to show up there in person and tell them how to get around this Activation Lock in 4 words or less!
    1. thazsar's Avatar
      thazsar -
      Quote Originally Posted by iBanks View Post
      I'm tempted to do an complete DFU restore on my device to test it, may see about it later. I wonder if a later version of iTunes will detect DFU mode and not preform the restore without individual typing in Apple ID credentials first.
      Please do!!! I asked p0sixninja but haven't gotten a response. Since you're already on iOS 7, it'd be interesting to see if you can bypass the security!
    1. cheaposity's Avatar
      cheaposity -
      They have done something this time it did asked me for my id and Password . Itunes - 11.0.4

      Quote Originally Posted by iBanks View Post
      I'm tempted to do an complete DFU restore on my device to test it, may see about it later. I wonder if a later version of iTunes will detect DFU mode and not preform the restore without individual typing in Apple ID credentials first.
    1. iBanks's Avatar
      iBanks -
      Quote Originally Posted by cheaposity View Post
      They have done something this time it did asked me for my id and Password . Itunes - 11.0.4
      Prior to setup or after? In other words, did it ask for the credentials even after selecting setup as new phone or restore from iCloud backup? If it did ask after selecting setup as new phone, did it show to skip the screen when adding apple ID info or was it required in order to setup as new phone?

      I think we are all looking in to deep of this. The way I see it is this... if and only if the device is reported lost through FMI, then and only then will the device require the users apple ID and password to recover it even after its been wiped. Someone mentioned that maybe the data is stored elsewhere after the device is wiped to possibly bypass the DFU mode recovery, which could be the case. But as far as us being able to sell our devices to others risks no problems, the device performs as normal as it did prior to iOS7 and its normal restore processes. I believe the key to this is the fact if its reported lost, then these securities fall in place.
    1. rustem12's Avatar
      rustem12 -
      "Ironic how there's an anti theft thing on the iphone but IOS 7 has stolen everything from android and other platform including the quick access to settings, the notification bar, the theme, the multitasking, the tabs in safari, the list is too long for me to mention it all. Apple is the biggest thief and copy so much from android. They should be ashamed of themselves"

      Lol stolen from android???
      And who did android copy?
      Oh that's right, iPhone jailbreak community! Haha.
      If it wasn't for the jailbreak community I'd love to see where android or apple would be with "their" ideas.
      I'd love to hear a bit more credit where credit is due. But that will never happen.
    1. thazsar's Avatar
      thazsar -
      Quote Originally Posted by rustem12 View Post
      "Ironic how there's an anti theft thing on the iphone but IOS 7 has stolen everything from android and other platform including the quick access to settings, the notification bar, the theme, the multitasking, the tabs in safari, the list is too long for me to mention it all. Apple is the biggest thief and copy so much from android. They should be ashamed of themselves"

      Lol stolen from android???
      And who did android copy?
      Oh that's right, iPhone jailbreak community! Haha.
      If it wasn't for the jailbreak community I'd love to see where android or apple would be with "their" ideas.
      I'd love to hear a bit more credit where credit is due. But that will never happen.
      I know, right! If it werent for the iPhone, Samsung would still be making slider/flip phones. If it weren't for jailbreaking, Apple would've never known the possibilities its little device could achieve!!!