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  • Cydia Acquires Rock.app


    It's been a year and a half since Rock Your Phone first made live their Rock.app store for 3rd party iPhone apps. Over the past few months, the folks who own both stores (Jay Freeman and Mario Ciabarra) have been working through a huge deal, which has come to public fruition tonight - Cydia is acquiring Rock. Well, technically, SaurikIT, LLC is acquiring Rock Your Phone, Inc (let's use correct business names here).

    Details of the acquisition have not been made public, but here's what it means to you: Rock.app will essentially dwindle away. There will be a transitional period for the next 10 days where users can purchase/download apps and licenses in Rock. After that, users will use their Cydia Store login to retrieve their purchased apps. The large majority of themes/apps from Rock will be moved over to Cydia (most are already there right now). Rock will have a notice on it's first page, and APT updates will discontinue in the near future (so Rock would be useless even if you had it). I chatted with Mario Ciabarra (CEO and founder of Rock Your Phone) and he had this to say about the acquisition:

    It's been a fun ride. We set out to change the landscape and I think we were very successful. I think we contributed to attracting more business professionals to the iPhone jailbreak community, and added some great functionality to the platform. The current transaction with Cydia is a great opportunity for us. We're going to miss some of the excitement, but no reason for anyone to worry. I, personally, will be spending even more time in Intelliborn apps development (both existing and exciting new projects). A few months ago, Jay and I sat down together and we realized, I enjoyed making apps more (and was better at it), while Jay enjoys providing platform functionality. It was a win-win for both groups and we're excited about the transition.
    Ciabarra, aka psuskeels, has been making jailbreak apps since very early on in the scene (Intelliscreen came out in May of 2008) - just a couple months after Cydia's February 2008 release. And while Intelliborn will still be a big player in the iPhone 3rd party apps scene, Rock will not. All the Intelliborn apps, like MyWi, Tlert, MyProfiles, My3G, Intelliscreen, etc will all remain available and development will be continued on them. They will all be available solely in Cydia now. In fact, this move means a total of over 21,000 iPhone extensions, apps, and themes are now in Cydia which are not available in the Apple AppStore.

    There's been a fierce undercurrent in many communities this past 18 months of "loyalty" to one of the two major jailbreak AppStores, with conversations in high gear lauding one or the other, bringing up this point or that point, etc. Many had both installed, and everyone had a preference. One thing can be said - it was a good run. You can't argue that Cydia isn't a more technically thorough solution, but the user experience of Rock.app was preferred by many. And the numbers are impressive - check these out from the Rock Your Phone news post about the acquisition:
    • Number of Developers with apps listed in the Rock Store: 124 (from 19 countries)
    • Unique iOS devices that installed Rock: 4.6 million (from 220 countries/territories) - Wow that is a lot of places!
    • Registered Rock Users: 2+ million
    • Number of App licenses sold: 500,000
    • Users of who took the plunge and bought something: 280,000 (from 185 countries)
    • Total Rock Your Phone Store revenue (March 12th, 2009 - September 2010): $3.3+ million
    • Number of Rock Employees (we are using the word employee loosely here but, hey, it is our company): 9

    After jailbreaking was officially declared legal in late July, there's been an even larger focus on the jailbreak community, or 3rd party iPhone developers. This acquisition makes Cydia and Cydia Store the clear leader in iPhone 3rd party package management. Exciting times ahead...

    This article was originally published in forum thread: Cydia Acquires Rock.app started by Kyle Matthews View original post
    Comments 474 Comments
    1. farfromovin's Avatar
      farfromovin -
      Sweet! The only reason I had Rock was for my intelliborn products. I really hated having to have both of them. Cydia always seemed less prone to glitches IMHO.
    1. Trooper Sam's Avatar
      Trooper Sam -
      This will definitely please those that had technical issues with Rock. I just hope the transition for those of us with Intelliborn apps will go smoothly.

      Well, I'm certain we won't get screwed, but there may be a holdup or two.
    1. rhekt's Avatar
      rhekt -
      oh SNAP! this is crazy news. ive been with Rock since it had but a few apps intelliscreen. tlert. elert. intelidial. i think maybe 1 or two more. jesus\ i think this will be good though. especially with extentions.
    1. matinm90's Avatar
      matinm90 -
      Ok. What does it tell you when even the iPhone dev team doesn't support rock? Rock is a great concept. I will admit that. But sadly it lacks the architecture to live up to the idea. Rock actually killed my phones NAND. Idk how but it did. Cydia is slow because a lot of hard work went into it. Saurik did a great Job with it. So don't be complaining. Cydia is still the best 3rd party app downloader out there.
    1. MadMan29729's Avatar
      MadMan29729 -
      so will cydia be getting rock apps

      1. minimize on confirm? (install while still browsing for apps)
      2. check for updates like rock app (even when closed)
      3. soft reboot upon exit rather than immediately?
    1. PeezaPi's Avatar
      PeezaPi -
      Quote Originally Posted by JazJon View Post
      hmmm, yeah I hope the new Cydia has Rock like speed. I don't like how Cydia shows new apps/updates. It piles in 100's of new Themes when I all want to see are apps.

      So my request is:

      Improve the speed
      Let us filter out the Themes from what's new
      A. He (Saurik) already explained why it's slower. Personally I don't mind if cydia is a little slower if it's doing things correctly.
      B. (in cydia) if you click on sections in the bottom bar, then edit button, you can turn off the ones you don't want to see.
    1. akira8473's Avatar
      akira8473 -
      This was a long time coming. Personally I understand the cydia is a much more technologically stable app but the apps withing cydia are aimed at the public and the public want better support, and usability, from there third party app store and that's rock. If cydia is here for the long haul then Saurik needs to take cydia and implement some of the rock functionality, make it more average person friendly and not so dev friendly
    1. phoenix3200's Avatar
      phoenix3200 -
      Quote Originally Posted by JazJon View Post
      It piles in 100's of new Themes when I all want to see are apps.
      You can disable categories in Cydia.
    1. k.nitsua's Avatar
      k.nitsua -
      Quote Originally Posted by JazJon View Post
      hmmm, yeah I hope the new Cydia has Rock like speed. I don't like how Cydia shows new apps/updates. It piles in 100's of new Themes when I all want to see are apps.

      So my request is:

      Improve the speed
      Let us filter out the Themes from what's new
      You can already filter out themes. Open cydia, go to sections, press edit, and turn off the sections you don't care for.

      I'm all for competition, but a united jailbreak community will be beneficial for all of us... Whatever gets Saurik back to updating WinterBoard (per page wallpapers, retina display UI, faster HTML wallpaper loads on the iPhone 4, etc).
    1. brianlg's Avatar
      brianlg -
      thank.god.
    1. Treeml's Avatar
      Treeml -
      This is a shame, Cydia should become Rock.

      Rock loads everything a million times faster then Cydia. Everything about the UI is better and more efficient.
    1. Electrodaktylus's Avatar
      Electrodaktylus -
      Cydia Rocks!!!!
    1. Cer0's Avatar
      Cer0 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Treeml View Post
      This is a shame, Cydia should become Rock.

      Rock loads everything a million times faster then Cydia. Everything about the UI is better and more efficient.
      Please read Saurik's response to why it loads faster.
    1. Forgoten Dynasty's Avatar
      Forgoten Dynasty -
      lol Can you say monopoly? Isn't that what users jailbroke for? So they can truly "think differently". Don't get me wrong I love cydia and I fully understand the concept of "If you don't like it create your own". I just find it slightly ironic.


      Alwelt Congrats saruik and thanks for for everything you do (and continue to do) to contribute to the community.


      EDIT: BTW does this mean I can finally get rid of all those crappy rock extensions?
    1. saurik's Avatar
      saurik -
      Quote Originally Posted by JazJon View Post
      hmmm, yeah I hope the new Cydia has Rock like speed. I don't like how Cydia shows new apps/updates. It piles in 100's of new Themes when I all want to see are apps.

      So my request is:

      Improve the speed
      Let us filter out the Themes from what's new
      Cydia has had this feature for two years now: click Sections, then click Edit, then turn off themes.
    1. Cer0's Avatar
      Cer0 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Forgoten Dynasty View Post
      lol Can you say monopoly? Isn't that what users jailbroke for? So they can truly "think differently". Don't get me wrong I love cydia and I fully understand the concept of "If you don't like it create your own". I just find it slightly ironic.


      Alwelt Congrats saruik and thanks for for everything you do (and continue to do) to contribute to the community.
      Yea but Saurik isn't blocking anything. You can install anything you want or put in your own repo.
    1. farrow.zachary's Avatar
      farrow.zachary -
      Does this mean no morse rock extensions to install which so many people hate on
    1. saurik's Avatar
      saurik -
      Quote Originally Posted by Forgoten Dynasty View Post
      lol Can you say monopoly? Isn't that what users jailbroke for? So they can truly "think differently". Don't get me wrong I love cydia and I fully understand the concept of "If you don't like it create your own". I just find it slightly ironic.


      Alwelt Congrats saruik and thanks for for everything you do (and continue to do) to contribute to the community.
      Most users jailbreak because the things possible on a jailbroken phone are fundamentally different than what is possible on a non-jailbroken phone. Once you jailbreak, with Cydia, you can do whatever you want: there are even repositories for Cydia carrying illegal content; I really have no control over you. Also, many of the largest developers still use no store, but are available in Cydia, and even come from default repositories: they are sold on their own website but installable using Cydia.
    1. wolverinemarky's Avatar
      wolverinemarky -
      wow cant believe this i love cydia so this is good news for me one place to get everything and now i wont have to look in both places
    1. saurik's Avatar
      saurik -
      Quote Originally Posted by k.nitsua View Post
      You can already filter out themes. Open cydia, go to sections, press edit, and turn off the sections you don't care for.

      I'm all for competition, but a united jailbreak community will be beneficial for all of us... Whatever gets Saurik back to updating WinterBoard (per page wallpapers, retina display UI, faster HTML wallpaper loads on the iPhone 4, etc).
      a) Did per page wallpapers break? I will look into it. I did not know this.
      b) There are already numerous themes for the iPhone 4's retina display: WinterBoard (as opposed to SummerBoard, which many themes are designed for) should have no limitations in what it can theme.
      c) I am not in control of the speed of HTML.