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  • Cydia Acquires Rock.app


    It's been a year and a half since Rock Your Phone first made live their Rock.app store for 3rd party iPhone apps. Over the past few months, the folks who own both stores (Jay Freeman and Mario Ciabarra) have been working through a huge deal, which has come to public fruition tonight - Cydia is acquiring Rock. Well, technically, SaurikIT, LLC is acquiring Rock Your Phone, Inc (let's use correct business names here).

    Details of the acquisition have not been made public, but here's what it means to you: Rock.app will essentially dwindle away. There will be a transitional period for the next 10 days where users can purchase/download apps and licenses in Rock. After that, users will use their Cydia Store login to retrieve their purchased apps. The large majority of themes/apps from Rock will be moved over to Cydia (most are already there right now). Rock will have a notice on it's first page, and APT updates will discontinue in the near future (so Rock would be useless even if you had it). I chatted with Mario Ciabarra (CEO and founder of Rock Your Phone) and he had this to say about the acquisition:

    It's been a fun ride. We set out to change the landscape and I think we were very successful. I think we contributed to attracting more business professionals to the iPhone jailbreak community, and added some great functionality to the platform. The current transaction with Cydia is a great opportunity for us. We're going to miss some of the excitement, but no reason for anyone to worry. I, personally, will be spending even more time in Intelliborn apps development (both existing and exciting new projects). A few months ago, Jay and I sat down together and we realized, I enjoyed making apps more (and was better at it), while Jay enjoys providing platform functionality. It was a win-win for both groups and we're excited about the transition.
    Ciabarra, aka psuskeels, has been making jailbreak apps since very early on in the scene (Intelliscreen came out in May of 2008) - just a couple months after Cydia's February 2008 release. And while Intelliborn will still be a big player in the iPhone 3rd party apps scene, Rock will not. All the Intelliborn apps, like MyWi, Tlert, MyProfiles, My3G, Intelliscreen, etc will all remain available and development will be continued on them. They will all be available solely in Cydia now. In fact, this move means a total of over 21,000 iPhone extensions, apps, and themes are now in Cydia which are not available in the Apple AppStore.

    There's been a fierce undercurrent in many communities this past 18 months of "loyalty" to one of the two major jailbreak AppStores, with conversations in high gear lauding one or the other, bringing up this point or that point, etc. Many had both installed, and everyone had a preference. One thing can be said - it was a good run. You can't argue that Cydia isn't a more technically thorough solution, but the user experience of Rock.app was preferred by many. And the numbers are impressive - check these out from the Rock Your Phone news post about the acquisition:
    • Number of Developers with apps listed in the Rock Store: 124 (from 19 countries)
    • Unique iOS devices that installed Rock: 4.6 million (from 220 countries/territories) - Wow that is a lot of places!
    • Registered Rock Users: 2+ million
    • Number of App licenses sold: 500,000
    • Users of who took the plunge and bought something: 280,000 (from 185 countries)
    • Total Rock Your Phone Store revenue (March 12th, 2009 - September 2010): $3.3+ million
    • Number of Rock Employees (we are using the word employee loosely here but, hey, it is our company): 9

    After jailbreaking was officially declared legal in late July, there's been an even larger focus on the jailbreak community, or 3rd party iPhone developers. This acquisition makes Cydia and Cydia Store the clear leader in iPhone 3rd party package management. Exciting times ahead...

    This article was originally published in forum thread: Cydia Acquires Rock.app started by Kyle Matthews View original post
    Comments 474 Comments
    1. JedixJarf's Avatar
      JedixJarf -
      Well this sucks, I love cydia but I use rock everyday because it loads sooo much faster. Oh well looks like choice is now gone, I'm gonna fire up installer.app


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    1. MadMan29729's Avatar
      MadMan29729 -
      this might be a BIG question but!! what features of Rock can we expect to see in cydia in the near future?
    1. wim66's Avatar
      wim66 -
      No more scary moments updating Rock App, I'm all for it
    1. rhekt's Avatar
      rhekt -
      Quote Originally Posted by MadMan29729 View Post
      this might be a BIG question but!! what features of Rock can we expect to see in cydia in the near future?
      allready covered. goodnight. [8^\
    1. javiert30's Avatar
      javiert30 -
      Quote Originally Posted by farfromovin View Post
      Sweet! The only reason I had Rock was for my intelliborn products. I really hated having to have both of them. Cydia always seemed less prone to glitches IMHO.
      Then I think you dont need a jailbreak, go ahead and restore to iOS 4.1 and stay stock...

      Quote Originally Posted by rhekt View Post
      as much as i have liked the different apps Rock initially provided. Cydias acquisition of Rock is the right move.



      1,431 posts and no idea what an SHSH or a "blob" is
      Blob is something slimy
    1. subywrex's Avatar
      subywrex -
      Quote Originally Posted by saurik View Post
      a) Did per page wallpapers break? I will look into it. I did not know this.
      b) There are already numerous themes for the iPhone 4's retina display: WinterBoard (as opposed to SummerBoard, which many themes are designed for) should have no limitations in what it can theme.
      c) I am not in control of the speed of HTML.
      What k.nit was referring to was the uiimages for the iPhone 4 currently the only way to theme anything that is in uiimages have to use low res images. This I also true for theming the wallpaper. It seems that when you include a wallpaper.png in the theme with retina resolution the png gets doubled in size when applied through winterboard. This is also true for all uiimages as well as using the "icons" folder to theme icons
    1. rhekt's Avatar
      rhekt -
      Quote Originally Posted by javiert30 View Post
      Blob is something slimy
      HA/ha. /nope/ it is by definition "an indistinct shapeless form"
    1. cypherpunk's Avatar
      cypherpunk -
      I honestly won't miss rock.app. It's been responsible from more bricks than anything else I've used.
    1. eyePH0NE's Avatar
      eyePH0NE -
      Quote Originally Posted by saurik View Post
      b) There are already numerous themes for the iPhone 4's retina display: WinterBoard (as opposed to SummerBoard, which many themes are designed for) should have no limitations in what it can theme.
      It would be very nice to have categories like Themes compatible for iOS 4, Themes for Retina displays etc. At the moment it's like try & error.

      Will Winterboard also be updated?
    1. rkswat's Avatar
      rkswat -
      Quote Originally Posted by saurik View Post
      1) This is not safe, as installations sometimes do drastic modifications to the system. It really needs to not be possible to task switch while an installation is occurring. Cydia is not the App Store: there are no safe little boxes with guaranteed use cases that are drawn around the packages it installs.

      2) I really want to add this, but I got a nearly unanimous response from users outside of the US that this was "evil" as it would cost them money while they were sleeping, and the power users complained that it cost memory and battery power. I am intending to approach the subject again and look into making it a configuration option.

      3) This is not possible. I realize Rock does it, and it even seems to work, but it really does not. There are some horrible corner cases that come up when you have an incoming phone call that cause the entire phone to kernel panic if you try to do this. Cydia actually /used/ to do this, for like a year or so when it first came out, and I had to change it due to the issues it caused.
      How about how rock keeps track of my already purchased license so I don't have to deal with contacting the maker to get it moved to another phone. This is a must have.
    1. floppy_joe's Avatar
      floppy_joe -
      Quote Originally Posted by rhekt View Post
      as much as i have liked the different apps Rock initially provided. Cydias acquisition of Rock is the right move.



      1,431 posts and no idea what an SHSH or a "blob" is
      thats 1


      Quote Originally Posted by rhekt View Post
      thanks.im pretty sure he was jus a kiddin seems like a faker account anyways
      thats 2


      you forgot Thanked 752 Times in 449 Posts, no faking that
      you forgot Thanked 62 Times in 51 Posts , seems like nobody really give a **** what you have to say

      I am flattered that you took the time to pick me out of the crowd and spew out a comment. I am also amazed at how you know what I supposedly must know.
      Unfortunately, you bore me son, at least come with something fun or witty but to waste your time on someone who can give 2 squirts about you and to try and impress with your logic, um 1431 posts = must know what a blob is, and then to call someone out as a "faker account", uh well ok then im just faking. but at least i am not an insignificant account.
    1. subywrex's Avatar
      subywrex -
      Quote Originally Posted by rkswat View Post
      How about how rock keeps track of my already purchased license so I don't have to deal with contacting the maker to get it moved to another phone. This is a must have.
      This is already possible. The only thing it doesn't do is give you a nice list when you log in. If I already purchase an app and I go to buy it again and log in it will show already purchased and been links your phone to the account.

      There are some apps like lockinfo irealsms bitesms and so on that use there own methods which is why you would have to contact the dev. So really that has nothing to do with cydia it has to do with the way the dev chooses to implement the purchase of there product
    1. rhekt's Avatar
      rhekt -
      Quote Originally Posted by floppy_joe View Post
      thats 1




      thats 2


      you forgot Thanked 752 Times in 449 Posts, no faking that
      you forgot Thanked 62 Times in 51 Posts , seems like nobody really give a **** what you have to say

      I am flattered that you took the time to pick me out of the crowd and spew out a comment. I am also amazed at how you know what I supposedly must know.
      Unfortunately, you bore me son, at least come with something fun or witty but to waste your time on someone who can give 2 squirts about you and to try and impress with your logic, um 1431 posts = must know what a blob is, and then to call someone out as a "faker account", uh well ok then im just faking. but at least i am not an insignificant account.
      stop acting like the 13 year old you are and go to sleep. dont forget to brush your teeth like your parents told you. goodnight [8^=/
    1. MJFox's Avatar
      MJFox -
      how about the reviews in rock? will all of them get lost?
    1. ethd's Avatar
      ethd -
      Well... I was more of a Rock user myself, but having a rudimentary understanding of APT, I see some of the design decision mess-ups that were done in Rock. I just wish searches were faster in Cydia, searching after you've filled everything in rather than as you type, though I'm not sure if search as you type is mandatory in apt.
    1. subywrex's Avatar
      subywrex -
      I also have no clue why people like the look of rock. ITS SO OUT DATED AND F ING UGLY lol
    1. iNT3Rv3NTiONZz's Avatar
      iNT3Rv3NTiONZz -
      Very interesting, I'm gna hate only using cydia tho, rock was good to use when I wna have a quick browse through dome themes cause you don't have to hang around for the infamous loading screens


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    1. floppy_joe's Avatar
      floppy_joe -
      Quote Originally Posted by rhekt View Post
      stop acting like the 13 year old you are and go to sleep. dont forget to brush your teeth like your parents told you. goodnight [8^=/
      really? embarrassing. move on.
    1. Cer0's Avatar
      Cer0 -
      Stop, and move on. Stay on topic.
    1. floppy_joe's Avatar
      floppy_joe -
      peace