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  • Cydia Acquires Rock.app


    It's been a year and a half since Rock Your Phone first made live their Rock.app store for 3rd party iPhone apps. Over the past few months, the folks who own both stores (Jay Freeman and Mario Ciabarra) have been working through a huge deal, which has come to public fruition tonight - Cydia is acquiring Rock. Well, technically, SaurikIT, LLC is acquiring Rock Your Phone, Inc (let's use correct business names here).

    Details of the acquisition have not been made public, but here's what it means to you: Rock.app will essentially dwindle away. There will be a transitional period for the next 10 days where users can purchase/download apps and licenses in Rock. After that, users will use their Cydia Store login to retrieve their purchased apps. The large majority of themes/apps from Rock will be moved over to Cydia (most are already there right now). Rock will have a notice on it's first page, and APT updates will discontinue in the near future (so Rock would be useless even if you had it). I chatted with Mario Ciabarra (CEO and founder of Rock Your Phone) and he had this to say about the acquisition:

    It's been a fun ride. We set out to change the landscape and I think we were very successful. I think we contributed to attracting more business professionals to the iPhone jailbreak community, and added some great functionality to the platform. The current transaction with Cydia is a great opportunity for us. We're going to miss some of the excitement, but no reason for anyone to worry. I, personally, will be spending even more time in Intelliborn apps development (both existing and exciting new projects). A few months ago, Jay and I sat down together and we realized, I enjoyed making apps more (and was better at it), while Jay enjoys providing platform functionality. It was a win-win for both groups and we're excited about the transition.
    Ciabarra, aka psuskeels, has been making jailbreak apps since very early on in the scene (Intelliscreen came out in May of 2008) - just a couple months after Cydia's February 2008 release. And while Intelliborn will still be a big player in the iPhone 3rd party apps scene, Rock will not. All the Intelliborn apps, like MyWi, Tlert, MyProfiles, My3G, Intelliscreen, etc will all remain available and development will be continued on them. They will all be available solely in Cydia now. In fact, this move means a total of over 21,000 iPhone extensions, apps, and themes are now in Cydia which are not available in the Apple AppStore.

    There's been a fierce undercurrent in many communities this past 18 months of "loyalty" to one of the two major jailbreak AppStores, with conversations in high gear lauding one or the other, bringing up this point or that point, etc. Many had both installed, and everyone had a preference. One thing can be said - it was a good run. You can't argue that Cydia isn't a more technically thorough solution, but the user experience of Rock.app was preferred by many. And the numbers are impressive - check these out from the Rock Your Phone news post about the acquisition:
    • Number of Developers with apps listed in the Rock Store: 124 (from 19 countries)
    • Unique iOS devices that installed Rock: 4.6 million (from 220 countries/territories) - Wow that is a lot of places!
    • Registered Rock Users: 2+ million
    • Number of App licenses sold: 500,000
    • Users of who took the plunge and bought something: 280,000 (from 185 countries)
    • Total Rock Your Phone Store revenue (March 12th, 2009 - September 2010): $3.3+ million
    • Number of Rock Employees (we are using the word employee loosely here but, hey, it is our company): 9

    After jailbreaking was officially declared legal in late July, there's been an even larger focus on the jailbreak community, or 3rd party iPhone developers. This acquisition makes Cydia and Cydia Store the clear leader in iPhone 3rd party package management. Exciting times ahead...

    This article was originally published in forum thread: Cydia Acquires Rock.app started by Kyle Matthews View original post
    Comments 474 Comments
    1. MetallicaFan1991's Avatar
      MetallicaFan1991 -
      Please use Rocks UI and loading times and backup etc

      I prefer the Rock UI soooo much more and it's speed...

      Thinking about it Cydia's UI is soo stock, I hate it. Rock was soo nice and none of that ****** reloading times >_<
    1. toyvan's Avatar
      toyvan -
      Quote Originally Posted by TCcentex View Post
      ditto, ditto, and mother-****ing ditto ToyVan... I think you addressed every themers concerns who's names don't rhyme with marsoldercleats

      I had to read that a few times before I actually got it! hahaha
    1. TCcentex's Avatar
      TCcentex -
      @saurik...

      i'd like to make one very big request on behalf of all the theme creators here (if you're a themer and you don't agree, I apologize for speaking on your behalf...), and even all the app developers....

      PLEASE remove the "featured apps/themes" section on the front page of Cydia and replace it with a rolling-display of the new and most popular apps & themes. Rock did this, and from their business perspective it was an AMAZING approach. They would constantly roll whatever themes & apps were actually being purchased/downloaded to give more exposure to the creators of said packages, and it really encouraged competition among the devs to produce quality work. If an app or theme wasn't good enough, it fell off the list and into obscurity like it should. If a new theme or app is submitted, give the dev a chance to put it in front of the community, and if it's good enough to last, then it should. If not, bye-bye, try again and better luck next time. Rock's featured apps/themes front-page even went as far as only displaying said packages to users who's devices didn't have them already installed on their devices, and it was a very fair and effective method.

      The current format is very out of date, and very limited to a few developers and that's not fair. PLEASE consider this -- it will only encourage the work being submitted to be better and better, and the public will be better off for it.

      Thank you Jay.
    1. Leonick91's Avatar
      Leonick91 -
      Correct me someone who really knows this stuff if I am wrong... But last pages have been a lot of complaining about the amounts of ads in cydia and people saying it was less in rock.

      To my knowledge neither app has any ads at all...All the ads you see when using Cydia or Rock are on the repositories your viewing and not the app itself. Every time you read the description or look at screenshots of a package in either app your loading a html page from the repository hosting the package.

      As I said, anyone who knows this stuff, please correct me if I am wrong...
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by TCcentex View Post
      ditto, ditto, and mother-****ing ditto ToyVan... I think you addressed every themers concerns who's names don't rhyme with marsoldercleats
      Jealous much?
    1. TCcentex's Avatar
      TCcentex -
      Quote Originally Posted by paganizonda83 View Post
      Jealous much?
      only that the gal in your avatar isn't sitting in my lap

      i want to elaborate on my original comment because I was obviously misunderstood. My point has NOTHING to do with jealosy. I challenge you to take a new member to the jailbreak community, put 10 themes in front of them WITHOUT THE NAME OF THE THEME CREATOR ATTACHED and let's see who comes out on top. All I was pointing out is that you put me or any of the other themers that have any level of success and a good theme or two on the "Featured List" smack-dab on the front-page of what is now the ONLY place to purchase and dowmload these themes, and we'd have the same level of success as it's current inhabitants.
    1. one1's Avatar
      one1 -
      Once this begins and Saurik starts acquiring companies to grow in the jailbreaking world, the target on his head from apple just got a lot bigger. He may have very well moved himself into the firing area.
    1. Leonick91's Avatar
      Leonick91 -
      Quote Originally Posted by TCcentex View Post
      ADS:





      only that the gal in your avatar isn't sitting in my lap
      yea and if you go view the same pages in rock they will be there too, those ads arnt in cydia or rock itself just as there isnt a single ad in firefox or safari they are on the pages you load from the repositories
    1. TCcentex's Avatar
      TCcentex -
      edited due to misinformation - i apologize, I didn't fully understand what I was talking about.
    1. radioboy's Avatar
      radioboy -
      edit: nevermind
    1. Patato22's Avatar
      Patato22 -
      Quote Originally Posted by TCcentex View Post
      @saurik...

      i'd like to make one very big request on behalf of all the theme creators here (if you're a themer and you don't agree, I apologize for speaking on your behalf...), and even all the app developers....

      PLEASE remove the "featured apps/themes" section on the front page of Cydia and replace it with a rolling-display of the new and most popular apps & themes. Rock did this, and from their business perspective it was an AMAZING approach. They would constantly roll whatever themes & apps were actually being purchased/downloaded to give more exposure to the creators of said packages, and it really encouraged competition among the devs to produce quality work. If an app or theme wasn't good enough, it fell off the list and into obscurity like it should. If a new theme or app is submitted, give the dev a chance to put it in front of the community, and if it's good enough to last, then it should. If not, bye-bye, try again and better luck next time. Rock's featured apps/themes front-page even went as far as only displaying said packages to users who's devices didn't have them already installed on their devices, and it was a very fair and effective method.

      The current format is very out of date, and very limited to a few developers and that's not fair. PLEASE consider this -- it will only encourage the work being submitted to be better and better, and the public will be better off for it.

      Thank you Jay.
      Agree cydia never upgrade ****. The home page is the same. Yeah they change it 2 day ago but the featured theme & app are the sameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee lOl
    1. Leonick91's Avatar
      Leonick91 -
      Quote Originally Posted by TCcentex View Post
      Not complaining about the ads -- saurik works his tail off and should take any means possible to generate more revenue to allow for continued improvements and earn as much income which he is more than entitled to. Was just answering your question.
      Yea I am not complaining about them either,just saying I don't think they really are on Cydia and their profits don't go to Saurik but to the repositories they are shown on, and they need them to keep the servers everything is hosted on up
    1. ethd's Avatar
      ethd -
      Quote Originally Posted by subywrex View Post
      Blaming cydia for a repo not loading right is like blaming safari for someones website going down.

      Errors in repos have nothing to do with cydia. It has yo do with the server the repo is hosted on.
      Um, yes, I understand that. I'm blaming Cydia for how it handles repositories that are down. I love Cydia, and think it's a great app, I'm just expressing a personal issue with it.
      On another note I'm sorry for taking so long to respond, Modmyi is popular and my life is busy =P
    1. subywrex's Avatar
      subywrex -
      Quote Originally Posted by tccentex View Post
      @saurik...

      I'd like to make one very big request on behalf of all the theme creators here (if you're a themer and you don't agree, i apologize for speaking on your behalf...), and even all the app developers....

      please remove the "featured apps/themes" section on the front page of cydia and replace it with a rolling-display of the new and most popular apps & themes. rock did this, and from their business perspective it was an amazing approach. They would constantly roll whatever themes & apps were actually being purchased/downloaded to give more exposure to the creators of said packages, and it really encouraged competition among the devs to produce quality work. If an app or theme wasn't good enough, it fell off the list and into obscurity like it should. If a new theme or app is submitted, give the dev a chance to put it in front of the community, and if it's good enough to last, then it should. If not, bye-bye, try again and better luck next time. Rock's featured apps/themes front-page even went as far as only displaying said packages to users who's devices didn't have them already installed on their devices, and it was a very fair and effective method.

      the current format is very out of date, and very limited to a few developers and that's not fair. please consider this -- it will only encourage the work being submitted to be better and better, and the public will be better off for it.

      Thank you jay.
      +1000000000000000000000000000000
    1. cara_marie0303's Avatar
      cara_marie0303 -
      Any one else having any problems viewing any app that is posted by modmyi.com? Worked fine yesterday and today they won't load at all to even view and if I try to download anyway it says "size mismatch"
    1. robertr1's Avatar
      robertr1 -
      I won't really miss rock. The last two times I used it I ended up having some sort of error that required a restore. The speed and UI is great but I don't enjoy restoring.
    1. Phil_ellis's Avatar
      Phil_ellis -
      How the transfer going to work with apps like iblacklist . I purchased via rock and when I got my iPhone 4 just signed into rock and licence transferred now when a jailbreak for 4.1 is released there probably won't be a rock to get my licence .
    1. billchase2's Avatar
      billchase2 -
      Awesome! I was never a fan of Rock and really disliked that I had to have it installed to run certain apps. Looks like that will be coming to an end. :-)

      Excited to see where this goes!
    1. mortopher's Avatar
      mortopher -
      Quote Originally Posted by Phil_ellis View Post
      How the transfer going to work with apps like iblacklist . I purchased via rock and when I got my iPhone 4 just signed into rock and licence transferred now when a jailbreak for 4.1 is released there probably won't be a rock to get my licence .
      Read the posts! I already answered this.
    1. anekin007's Avatar
      anekin007 -
      i use both cydia and rock when they both first started. the rock grew on me. sure rock has its problems in the beginning so did cydia when it first started. rock has greatly improved and is more stable and i havent had a problem with it for a long time now. i think i had only 1 restore with rock but when i had my 2g and 3g i did had some restores with cydia but that was still the beginning phases of jailbreaking.

      what i like about the rock is:

      1. its UI its more user friendly
      2. auto backup jailbroken files when rock was open
      3. better featured, hot, and popular apps and themes section.
      4. rating and comment system. (helps me avoid bad/glitched apps instead of installing and finding out for myself)

      Rock you will be missed. it rocked my phone! hopefully there will be some improvements and changes with cydia. i already notice the home page is already changed on cydia. also backgrounder is no longer working on cydia. double click or even holding the home button. tried it with all my other apps and its running in background fine but not cydia.