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  • iPhone 4G Prototype - Lost And Found

    Someone might be getting fired tomorrow. It turns out that someone had left behind an, what looks to be, an iPhone 4G, or at least some type of prototype. Or it could just be someone playing a joke. We've seen a ton of fake iPhones from China, and this might be the same.

    Engadget was the first to report this news. Apparently the phone was found on the floor of a San Jose bar inside of an iPhone 3G case. Although it is exciting, a number of users have pointed out that this looks almost like a Twitpic posted by TUDream on February 20th.

    The device that was found is reported to have a front facing camera, and 80GB of memory.

    I personally don't buy one bit of it. I can't imagine Apple ever releasing something so hideous. The housing is horrendous. But then again, if its a prototype, they might not put that much effort into the housing for this one to preserve some secrecy to what it will really look like.

    None the less, here are some more photos from Engadget.

    This article was originally published in forum thread: iPhone 4G Prototype - Lost And Found started by nickhesson View original post
    Comments 77 Comments
    1. iLaw-One's Avatar
      iLaw-One -
      New iphone or not, I think it looks cool, and blends well with the form factor of apple's latest idevices! Makes a lot of sense to me, and I was actually expecting the 4G to look like this...besides, it's not a fashion accessory guys...it a phone/mini computer...if it does what I expect it to, I'm getting it...

      Also, most people would still get it either way, and then slap on an ugly case...

      Whatever the case, June will put an end to all the speculation
    1. TheAppShare's Avatar
      TheAppShare -
      IMO its fake. Apple would never include a microSD slot, especially if the device apparently comes with 80GB memory. Besides, the "proof" pictures that engadget has posted looks more like a old iPod then the new iPhone. If you look close enough it looks like a iPod with the screen on, considering only the top part of the device is white/lit.
    1. javiert30's Avatar
      javiert30 -
      Quote Originally Posted by feidhlim1986 View Post
      80GB = Fake
      4GB - 8GB - 16GB - 32GB - 64GB - 128GB = logically progression of flash memory.

      Yep, you got it...
    1. sziklassy's Avatar
      sziklassy -
      This looked like nothing that Apple would release from the getgo. Admittedly I am seeing this after the original post has been edited as a "Japanese knock-off", but still. Even if the phone in the images/video turned into a spaceship Steve Jobs would rather cut off his left arm than release that. It is just not sexy enough.
    1. docsnavely's Avatar
      docsnavely -

      Excellent reply. It's rare that you come in contact with people who are civil online.

      It's looking like your debunking via macrumors might be premature. Their "tipster" who isn't mentioned or ID'd says they bought the phone in Japan..... Who is to say this person is credible? For all you know, the picture of this "tipster" with the phone from "Japan" could actually be one of the Apple engineers saying such to keep people on the wrong track. For god's sake, the title of the post ends in a question mark! Since when does proof end in a question mark? I lived in Japan for 4 years and was just as much an Apple geek then as I am now. I still stand firm in saying that there is little to no counterfeit devices to be found in the land of the rising sun regardless of the brand or device.

      Now engadget is showing that the device in question might have been shown to us months ago with the rumored islate, ibook, ipad (remember those pics which people said weren't real) picture and we just never noticed it.

      For those saying that Apple would never put a micro SD card reader in their phone, you're right. The pictures from weiphone that have been produced show not a micro SD slot, but a micro SIM slot. Remember, 3g ipads will be using the micro SIM, and it just makes sense for the new iphone version to do the same. The location of the slot on the side is irrelevant since this is apparently (if real) a total redesign of the hardware. More proof that it is a sim slot is the small pin hole in the cover of the slot that is similar in nature to the iphone sim tray eject feature that is used now with all previous iphones.

      I know that I sound like a conspiracy theorist, but it's just what I see this all developing into. I'm not a computer or phone engineer, I'm just a paramedic in Florida who loves this stuff and have never had the time to post my thoughts like this up until now.

      Peace out!

    1. badass1469's Avatar
      badass1469 -
      Quote Originally Posted by feidhlim1986 View Post
      80GB = Fake
      4GB - 8GB - 16GB - 32GB - 64GB - 128GB = logically progression of flash memory.
      first off what ever is logical may not be practical, simply because if apple is really the true creator of that device shown there(which i completely disagree i like the look) then they would definitely make an 80G iPhone simple to f*ck with us and then soon come out with a higher capacity device to make us go for that one as well. As we all know apple does nothing but b1tch moves and make all their products slightly better then the previous one, just good enough to make us buy it, then do it again and we just keep buying their $h1t, when instead we should just wait about 3 years until we buy the next or newest version of that product so it will be far greater then what you have now. PS I like the fake or not fake iPhone's look.

      oh and for the other point of view for the nay sayer that this is indeed a fake iPhone, don't quote me on this but anyway here it goes, I personally think(think not know) that the next/newer iPhone will be an LED screen and not an LCD, simply cuz how jobs babbles and rambles on at how "green" their products are, and this would be more gasoline and not wood, to add to their fire. Lol i bet eventually the next iPhone will be an LED screen with a tin foil case.
    1. Sonofevil77's Avatar
      Sonofevil77 -
      That has to be the best looking one since the 1st gen!! These plastic ones we have now feel like such garbage compared to the 1st gen. I think if that is the next iPhone, it is beautiful!
    1. kwickone's Avatar
      kwickone -
      Check this out (sorry if already posted)! Looks like Gizmodo is now pretty darn sure this is the next iphone.

      This Is Apple's Next iPhone - Iphone 4 - Gizmodo
    1. flipto's Avatar
      flipto -
      I like it. I hope it's real!
    1. CZroe's Avatar
      CZroe -
      Quote Originally Posted by feidhlim1986 View Post
      80GB = Fake
      4GB - 8GB - 16GB - 32GB - 64GB - 128GB = logically progression of flash memory.
      I bet you feel smart.

      Note the Kingston V SSD Now! 40GB "Boot Drive" and Intel 80GB X-18 and X-25. Actually, both of them are Intel, but I also have an Intel 8GB SSD, so... there you go.

      Obviously, you can use even a single flash chip if you want so there is nothing stopping engineers from using any number/combination of them. A flash-aware OS has no need for an SSD controller nor its limitations (banks, channels, etc), providing maximum flexibility. Also, 80GB is not confirmed and very well may be just for the prototype. The phone wasn't booting anymore when tech reporters got their hands on it.
    1. TimAlvine's Avatar
      TimAlvine -
      Leave it to some field tester to get drunk at a bar and forget his (unreleased) iPhone 4g. It was camo’d to look like an iPhone 3Gs, but someone knew better… click here to check out its features, what’s new and what has changed… IPHONE 4G Found in a bar!!!!! All features, whats new, and what have changed!
    1. sziklassy's Avatar
      sziklassy -
      Quote Originally Posted by shadow25 View Post
      Not even close.


      Apple does NOT put iPhone on the back of a prototype.

      Want an example?
      I got some iPhone Prototypes - Mac Forums

      Before anyone jumps and says "They didn't know the product name!", please read the thread

      That's the only REAL prototype iPhone out in the open that I know about.

      Not to mention, the inconsistency in the pictures that the OP posted. Screws in one pic, but not in another.. Also, no shots of the phone on, because its a lot harder to fake the OS.

      Anyone who believes it just because it says iPhone on the back.. Wow.. I'll sell you a like new 500GB "iPhone" flip phone that looks strangely like a razr

      Modmyi needs to look at some simple facts before putting up a news article about a "iphone 4g prototype".
      Not that I am 100% sure that what we see in this thread is an actual prototype, but just because iPhone wasn't printed on the back of the first gen prototype, it doesn't mean that they will never put it on the back of another. At the time of manufacture of those proven prototypes, they may not have finalized the name, or may not have wanted anyone who saw the device to know the name before it was revealed to the world. The word iPhone is now a globally known name. There really isn't a reason not to place it on the back of a newer prototype.
    1. AJV1989's Avatar
      AJV1989 -
      This Is Apple's Next iPhone

      You are looking at Apple's next iPhone. It was found lost in a bar in Redwood City, camouflaged to look like an iPhone 3GS. We got it. We disassembled it. It's the real thing, and here are all the details.

      While Apple may tinker with the final packaging and design of the final phone, it's clear that the features in this lost-and-found next-generation iPhone are drastically new and drastically different from what came before. Here's the detailed list of our findings:

      What's new
      • Front-facing video chat camera
      • Improved regular back-camera (the lens is quite noticeably larger than the iPhone 3GS)
      • Camera flash
      • Micro-SIM instead of standard SIM (like the iPad)
      • Improved display. It's unclear if it's the 960x640 display thrown around before—it certainly looks like it, with the "Connect to iTunes" screen displaying much higher resolution than on a 3GS.
      • What looks to be a secondary mic for noise cancellation, at the top, next to the headphone jack
      • Split buttons for volume
      • Power, mute, and volume buttons are all metallic

      What's changed
      • The back is entirely flat, made of either glass (more likely) or ceramic or shiny plastic in order for the cell signal to poke through. Tapping on the back makes a more hollow and higher pitched sound compared to tapping on the glass on the front/screen, but that could just be the orientation of components inside making for a different sound
      • An aluminum border going completely around the outside
      • Slightly smaller screen than the 3GS (but seemingly higher resolution)
      • Everything is more squared off
      • 3 grams heavier
      • 16% Larger battery
      • Internals components are shrunken, miniaturized and reduced to make room for the larger battery

      Why we think it's definitely real
      We're as skeptical—if not more—than all of you. We get false tips all the time. But after playing with it for about a week—the overall quality feels exactly like a finished final Apple phone—and disassembling this unit, there is so much evidence stacked in its favor, that there's very little possibility that it's a fake. In fact, the possibility is almost none. Imagine someone having to use Apple components to design a functioning phone, from scratch, and then disseminating it to people around the world. Pretty much impossible. Here are the reasons, one by one.

      It has been reported lost
      Apple-connected John Gruber—from Daring Fireball—says that Apple has indeed lost a prototype iPhone and they want it back:

      So I called around, and I now believe this is an actual unit from Apple — a unit Apple is very interested in getting back.
      Obviously someone found it, and here it is.

      The screen
      While we couldn't get it past the connect to iTunes screen for the reasons listed earlier, the USB cable on that screen was so high quality that it was impossible to discern individual pixels. We can't tell you the exact resolution of this next-generation iPhone, but it's much higher than the current iPhone 3GS.

      The operating system
      According to the person who found it, this iPhone was running iPhone OS 4.0 before the iPhone 4.0 announcement. The person was able to play with it and see the iPhone 4.0 features. Then, Apple remotely killed the phone before we got access to it. We were unable to restore because each firmware is device specific—3GS firmware only loads on 3GS devices—and the there are no firmwares available for this unreleased phone. Which is another clue to its authenticity.

      It is recognized as an iPhone
      This iPhone behaves exactly like an iPhone does when connected to a computer, with the proper boot sequence and "connect to iTunes" restore functionality. Xcode and iTunes both see this as an iPhone. Mac OS X's System Profiler also reports this as an iPhone in restore mode, which is a natural consequence of remotely wiping the phone, but report different product identifiers (both CPID and CPRV) than either the 3G or the 3GS.

      It uses micro-sim
      The fact that it uses a micro-sim is a clear indicator that this is a next-generation iPhone. No other cellphone uses this standard at this point in the US.

      The camouflage case
      The case it came inside was a fully developed plastic case to house this phone to disguise it like a 3GS. This wasn't just a normal case; it had all the proper new holes cut out for the new switches and ports and camera holes and camera flash. But it looks like something from Belkin or Case-Mate. It's a perfect disguise.

      The fact that it's in the wild right now
      Logic can also narrow down why this phone is this year's iPhone, rather than next year's model or one from the previous year's, just because it was found in the wild right now. It makes no sense for Apple to be testing 2011's model right now, in super finished form—they wouldn't be nearly finished with it. The phone also can't be last year's test model, because last year's model (based on the iPhone 3GS teardowns) components were way different. No micro-sim, much bigger logic board, no flash, no front camera, smaller battery and an inferior camera. That only leaves the 2010 model.

      The guts, the definitive proof
      And finally, when we opened it up, we saw multiple components that were clearly labeled APPLE. And, because the components were fit extremely well and extremely conformed inside the case (obvious that it was designed FOR this case), it was evident that it was not just a 3G or a 3GS transplanted into another body. That probably wouldn't even be possible, with the size constraints of the thinner device and larger battery.

      The New Industrial Design
      At first sight, this new iPhone's industrial design seems so different from the previous two generations that it could be discarded as just a provisional case. Even while the finish is so perfect that it feels right out of the factory, some of the design language elements that are common to all Apple products are not there. Gone is the flushed screen glass against the metal rim. Gone is the single volume button, replaced by two separate ones. Gone is the seamless rim, and gone are the tapered, curved surfaces.

      Despite that, however, this design is not a departure. Not when you frame it with the rest of the Apple product line. It's all the contrary: This new iPhone gets back to the simplicity of the iMac and the iPad. In fact, you can argue that the current iPhone 3GS—with its shiny chrome rim and excessively curved back—is out of place compared to the hard edges and Dieter-Ramish utilitarianism of the iMac and the iPad. Next to the iPad, for example, the new iPhone makes sense. It has the same feeling, the same functional simplicity.

      But why the black plastic back, instead of going with an unibody aluminum design? Why the two audio volume buttons? Why the seams? And why doesn't the back have any curvature at all?

      Why the plastic back?
      The plastic back is the most obvious of the design choices. The iPad, with its all aluminum back, has seen its Wi-Fi reception radius reduced. The 3G version comes with a large patch on the top, probably big enough to provide with good reception. But the new tiny iPhone doesn't have the luxury of space: It needs to provide as much signal as possible using a very small surface. I'm sure Jon Ive is dying to get rid of the plastic back, and go iPad-style all the way, but the wireless reception is the most important thing in a cellphone. A necessary aesthetical-functional trade-off.

      Why separate volume buttons?
      This new iPhone uses separate buttons for the volume instead of the single button that you can find in the iPhone, iPod touch, or iPad. It's one of the factors that may indicate that this is a provisional case, until you think about one of the most requested features for Apple's phone: A physical button for the camera. The new iPhone has a bigger sensor and a flash, which means that the camera function keeps gaining more weight. It's only logical to think that Apple may have implemented this two-button approach to provide with a physical shutter button. It makes sense.

      Why the seams?
      The seams are perhaps the most surprising aspect of the new design. They don't seem to respond to any aesthetic criteria and, in terms of function, we can't adventure any explanation. But they don't look bad. In fact, the whole effect seems good, like something you will find in a Braun product from the 70s.

      It's doubtful that the seams are arbitrary, however. Either they will disappear from the final product, or they have a function we can't foresee at this time.

      Why no tapering or curves?
      As you will see in a future article, the new iPhone is so miniaturized and packed that there's no room for the tapered, curved surfaces. Everything is as tight as it could get, with no space for anything but electronics.

      The hardware specs
      The phone measures 4.50 by 2.31 by 0.37 inches. It weighs 140 grams. The 3GS weighs 137 grams on a postal scale (and 135 on Apple's official measurements). So, in comparison, it's 3 grams heavier. The battery is 5.25 WHr at 3.7V, compared to the 3GS battery, which is 4.51 WHr at 3.7V. On the back of the phone, it said it was XX GB, but since we were unable to get the phone to a running state, we couldn't see exactly how large it was.

      How it feels
      Freaking amazing. As a person who never really liked the round mound of a back in the 3GS, the sleeker, flatter, squarer design is super welcome. It feels sturdier than the 3GS, and much less plasticky. The metal buttons give it a heftier feel—less of a toy—than all previous generations. The closest analog to it would be the original iPhone, which is more square and heavy than its newer brothers.

      It feels completely natural up to your face, and the fact that both the front and the back are glossy makes no difference on how well you can hold it without the phone slipping. And because it's thinner, it feels even nicer in your pants.

      What all this means
      Apple has updated the exterior drastically different from the 3G and 3GS. That design is old, it felt out of place compared to the rest of their products and needed desperately to be killed. Now you have a thinner body, a much more pleasant form factor with no wasted space and lots of hard lines. But the design isn't the most important part that's changed.

      They've delivered many of the features people have been waiting for—that damn front camera!—while at the same time upgrading everything else. Flash, better back camera, better battery life and another microphone for better voice clarity. People who bought the 3G two years ago and are now in the perfect position to upgrade and get a dramatically different, and better, phone. If confirmed this summer, and if it performs as we expect, this next-generation iPhone looks like a winner.
    1. GellBrake'rrrr's Avatar
      GellBrake'rrrr -
      This topic just WILL NOT die! It is very interesting. If it is legit, in which i believe it is from what ive seen, then things are gonna tighten up even more over at Cupertino!!!
    1. orgy9111's Avatar
      orgy9111 -
      the sim tray is on the side
    1. moon#pie's Avatar
      moon#pie -
      6 months old. seriously, read the dates.