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  • Analyst: Galaxy S4 Inferior to iPhone 5


    The honeymoon is already over for Samsung's Galaxy S4 with one leading analyst, who deems the new flagship smartphone "inferior" to Apple's current-generation iPhone 5.

    Analyst Brian White of Topeka Capital Markets said Friday that the Galaxy S4 is "less refined" than the iPhone 5 and should not be viewed or promoted as a proverbial "game changer." While admitting that the S4 is an improvement over the S3, White expects Apple's forthcoming iPhone 5S to "handily outsell" the refreshed Samsung device.

    "We are amazed by how analysts and the media have turned on Apple during the recent stock downdrafts with statements that Samsung is 'out-innovating' Apple," White observed this morning. "One would believe that Samsung is crushing Apple in the mobile phone market. We believe this is complete nonsense."

    Despite confessing that the S4 has a pixel density of 441 per inch (which is superior to the screen resolution of the iPhone 5's display), White says the S4 is "heavier" and "fatter" than the iPhone 5. He also derides the S4's plastic casing, saying it's "no match" for the iPhone 5's aluminum unibody enclosure.

    Gene Munster of Piper Jaffray largely appears to be on the same page as White.

    "While the S4 is likely to be the iPhone's biggest competitor this year at the high-end of the market, we remain confident in our iPhone estimate for this year of 177.5 million, which includes a cheaper phone in the September quarter," Munster says. "We view the S4 as unlikely to meaningfully impact iPhone share of the high-end over the full year, but do expect it to take share from other Android phones."

    Sources: Fortune, BGR
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Analyst: Galaxy S4 Inferior to iPhone 5 started by Michael Essany View original post
    Comments 64 Comments
    1. rudylo1's Avatar
      rudylo1 -
      Quote Originally Posted by AUZambo View Post
      This is like comparing BMW to Mercedes. They both make damn fine cars. Why do we feel compelled to declare one better than the other? It's simply a matter of preference, and I wish people would quit trying to make it more than that.
      They Both do, i agree But if the BMW has a feature that you can swipe your hands and it makes you coffee and has a bigger wider and better navigation screen system for the same price as the Mercedes which has NO new feature except opening the roof? you might do two things: If you prefer BMW you would take it and run and have a better fetured Car for the same price as a Mercedes. OR if you prefer Mercedes, you will call the company and tell them that a BMW with more advanced features is selling for the same price and you are very tempted to jump ship. And you would then ask them to please get it together and look out for the people and not themselves cuz Samsung, i mean BMW sure is thinking about people and not themselves and what they can get away with like apple, i mean Mercedes!!
    1. Colwood's Avatar
      Colwood -
      Apple>Samsung
      Intel>AMD
      Coke>Pepsi
      I still like all 6 just a personal preference .. to each their own
    1. slim.jim's Avatar
      slim.jim -
      Quote Originally Posted by Colwood View Post
      Apple>Samsung
      Intel>AMD
      Coke>Pepsi
      I still like all 6 just a personal preference .. to each their own
      Agreed, I like Samsung appliances and TV's though. Apple hasn't gotten into that market yet. Waiting on the iFridge.
    1. blkcadi's Avatar
      blkcadi -
      Quote Originally Posted by slim.jim View Post
      Waiting on the iFridge.
      lmao, I'm in, I'd buy it...
    1. towboattrash34's Avatar
      towboattrash34 -
      If Apple don't do something about this crappy batt life them this 5 is the last iPhone ill buy. Who cares if its the fastest baddest if I have to charge it every 3.5 - 4hrs. That is crap.
    1. novadam's Avatar
      novadam -
      Quote Originally Posted by towboattrash34 View Post
      If Apple don't do something about this crappy batt life them this 5 is the last iPhone ill buy. Who cares if its the fastest baddest if I have to charge it every 3.5 - 4hrs. That is crap.
      weird. my 5 has amazing battery life. maybe 3x as good as my 4S. and I'm running a crapload of tweaks.
    1. Colwood's Avatar
      Colwood -
      Quote Originally Posted by novadam View Post
      weird. my 5 has amazing battery life. maybe 3x as good as my 4S. and I'm running a crapload of tweaks.
      my 5 battery life is quite the improvement too but I turn brightness down when inside, turn wifi off when I leave my house.. turn lte off at my house .. maybe that's why mine is good lol .. a lot of tweaks aswell
    1. robbyrob's Avatar
      robbyrob -
      Quote Originally Posted by frankjc81 View Post
      S4 fanbois are crying like crazy over this. Tell me fanbois, what Samsung phone was on the market in 2007? Fact is the galaxy only exists today because of the iphone. It will always be the iPhones bi##h and playing catch up. Realistically you S4 tools can only say how great the hardware is, even though you have no idea what any of the specs actually mean, because you know you are holding a plastic pieces of s#*t. I mean seriously. One product is extreamly well made. The other feels like a child's toy. So what if the specs are better here and there. When compared side by side it's practically unnoticeable. It comes down to quality of the product. Sure there are some people who genuinely like the s4 better. Which is fine. But I have no doubt the trolls that post in here are the kind of tools that see apple as mainstream so they are trying to be "cool" by going against the grain and being the odd man out with a galaxy. The different is cool type losers. Anyway to each their own. But like I said galaxy fanbois give credit where it's due. Smartphones do not exist with the iphone.
      So you don't like any of the "features" of the S4? Yes the iPhone was the phone that started it all. Like I said I won't be buying the S4 cause I'm a ******* fanboy of the iPhone. None the less Samsung came out swinging hard. Lots of features which I thought were really cool. Maybe you think they suck, it's cool, it's preference! You gotta g r credit where credit is due. If Samsung has a technology which you can scroll with your eyes and video stops when u look away that's pretty dam impressive innovation. You might not use it all and think it blows. It's still a awesome technology. Million dollar question.. If our phones are the best, the ones that started it all, the cream of the crop, extreamly well made, why dont we have those features and Samsung does? Never fight competition. It makes all products better. Samsung does this than apple out does Samsung with something cooler. Apple invents this and Samsung out does them with something cooler. It goes on and on and who wins? Us the consumer.. Goose Fraba!!!!
    1. CCNPJediHacker's Avatar
      CCNPJediHacker -
      Quote Originally Posted by Albut View Post
      Wonder what the real reason is for declaring an overall inferior phone better?
      And here come the Android Trolls... A brick running iOS is superior to any android POS
    1. Venom1234's Avatar
      Venom1234 -
      Quote Originally Posted by CCNPJediHacker View Post
      And here come the Android Trolls... A brick running iOS is superior to any android POS
      Your statement is flawed and invalid. NEXT.
    1. CCNPJediHacker's Avatar
      CCNPJediHacker -
      Quote Originally Posted by Venom1234 View Post
      Your statement is flawed and invalid. NEXT.
      Think you will find it's very valid... And upheld...

      The reason Android phones are stacked full of RAM and have beefy processors is due to needing more horsepower to counteract the inefficient OS. This then leads to requiring bigger batteries to support the inefficient device. There is no real world value to these supposed "higher specs" because the operating system does not use the software efficiently causing lag and a bad user experience. To have a truely special device you need to properly marry the hardware with the OS (hence iOS devices fantastic battery life at smaller sizes). iOS also graphically is seemless and without lag.

      If android was made by one vendor for one set of hardware it would become more efficient and would be a better OS. But it's not sadly and while it still has nice elements, the user experience is dreadful and cheap in comparison with iOS.

      Reasoned....

      Quote Originally Posted by Venom1234 View Post
      Your statement is flawed and invalid. NEXT.
      So I think it's you that needs to JOG ON over to X DA and stop trolling...
    1. Tperry's Avatar
      Tperry -
      Quote Originally Posted by frankjc81 View Post
      S4 fanbois are crying like crazy over this .
      It's Fandroids. Fanbois are strictly an Apple item.
    1. CCNPJediHacker's Avatar
      CCNPJediHacker -
      Quote Originally Posted by Tperry View Post
      It's Fandroids. Fanbois are strictly an Apple item.
      I think you will find it's a general term, it's not reserved for one group or another.

      http://m.urbandictionary.com/#define?term=fanboi
    1. Tperry's Avatar
      Tperry -
      Quote Originally Posted by CCNPJediHacker View Post
      I think you will find it's a general term, it's not reserved for one group or another.

      Urban Dictionary
      Or if you go to What is a Fanboi? - Definition from Techopedia and pay special attention to the last paragraph it's commonly used to refer to those fans of iPod, Iphone, Ipad.
      It's been in use as a derogatory name for the iPhone fanatics for a while. The opposite is fandroid, which is the same as fanboi, except for Andoid. Me... I just use whichever I want when the urge hits. Usually I have both the S3 and the iPhone 5 with me.
    1. King_O_Hill's Avatar
      King_O_Hill -
      Quote Originally Posted by CCNPJediHacker View Post
      Think you will find it's very valid... And upheld...

      The reason Android phones are stacked full of RAM and have beefy processors is due to needing more horsepower to counteract the inefficient OS. This then leads to requiring bigger batteries to support the inefficient device. There is no real world value to these supposed "higher specs" because the operating system does not use the software efficiently causing lag and a bad user experience. To have a truely special device you need to properly marry the hardware with the OS (hence iOS devices fantastic battery life at smaller sizes). iOS also graphically is seemless and without lag.

      If android was made by one vendor for one set of hardware it would become more efficient and would be a better OS. But it's not sadly and while it still has nice elements, the user experience is dreadful and cheap in comparison with iOS.
      Nailed it perfectly. I wanted to say the same thing, but you got there first! Well said.
    1. CCNPJediHacker's Avatar
      CCNPJediHacker -
      Quote Originally Posted by King_O_Hill View Post
      Nailed it perfectly. I wanted to say the same thing, but you got there first! Well said.
      Thanks mate
    1. Painkiller006's Avatar
      Painkiller006 -
      Quote Originally Posted by CCNPJediHacker View Post
      Think you will find it's very valid... And upheld...

      The reason Android phones are stacked full of RAM and have beefy processors is due to needing more horsepower to counteract the inefficient OS. This then leads to requiring bigger batteries to support the inefficient device. There is no real world value to these supposed "higher specs" because the operating system does not use the software efficiently causing lag and a bad user experience. To have a truely special device you need to properly marry the hardware with the OS (hence iOS devices fantastic battery life at smaller sizes). iOS also graphically is seemless and without lag.
      Is that why Apple keep stacking up their RAM also. The original iphone was using 128MB and now it has 1 GB RAM. Guess Apple needed the extra RAM since the OS was lagging as hell. There is no such thing as a "special device" when it clearly comes down to preference. The user experience on any high end Android device is just as smooth and lag free as the iphone so idk where you sheep keep getting this "lag" from. HTC Sense 5 is one of the best skins on any Android device besides AOSP. And i think most of the people who bash Android here have never owned or used any of the newer devices in the market. Before you open your mouth to say bla bla bla Android fanboy, i have an iPhone 5 along side my Droid DNA
    1. slim.jim's Avatar
      slim.jim -
      Quote Originally Posted by Painkiller006 View Post
      Is that why Apple keep stacking up their RAM also. The original iphone was using 128MB and now it has 1 GB RAM. Guess Apple needed the extra RAM since the OS was lagging as hell. There is no such thing as a "special device" when it clearly comes down to preference. The user experience on any high end Android device is just as smooth and lag free as the iphone so idk where you sheep keep getting this "lag" from. HTC Sense 5 is one of the best skins on any Android device besides AOSP. And i think most of the people who bash Android here have never owned or used any of the newer devices in the market. Before you open your mouth to say bla bla bla Android fanboy, i have an iPhone 5 along side my Droid DNA
      The original iPhone also had no App Store where you could download some pretty impressive 3D games that require more ram to run. It also did not have multitasking or backgrounding for anything except the iPod app.
    1. CCNPJediHacker's Avatar
      CCNPJediHacker -
      Quote Originally Posted by Painkiller006 View Post
      Is that why Apple keep stacking up their RAM also. The original iphone was using 128MB and now it has 1 GB RAM. Guess Apple needed the extra RAM since the OS was lagging as hell. There is no such thing as a "special device" when it clearly comes down to preference. The user experience on any high end Android device is just as smooth and lag free as the iphone so idk where you sheep keep getting this "lag" from. HTC Sense 5 is one of the best skins on any Android device besides AOSP. And i think most of the people who bash Android here have never owned or used any of the newer devices in the market. Before you open your mouth to say bla bla bla Android fanboy, i have an iPhone 5 along side my Droid DNA
      Not gonna say fanboy, just deluded...

      Now jog on back to xda, your milk and cookies are waiting for you there

      Quote Originally Posted by slim.jim View Post
      The original iPhone also had no App Store where you could download some pretty impressive 3D games that require more ram to run. It also did not have multitasking or backgrounding for anything except the iPod app.
      The dude is a nonsensical troll spouting disillusioned rhetoric, you can't reason with stupidity, not even worth acknowledging his trollish existence
    1. Painkiller006's Avatar
      Painkiller006 -
      Quote Originally Posted by CCNPJediHacker View Post
      Not gonna say fanboy, just deluded...

      Now jog on back to X DA, your milk and cookies are waiting for you there



      The dude is a nonsensical troll spouting disillusioned rhetoric, you can't reason with stupidity, not even worth acknowledging his trollish existence
      lmao troll. Look at you big guy, calling someone a troll because i don't worship your precious iPhone. You need to get your head out of your *** and face the fact that the iPhone is not the leader it used to be. Any sane person would tell you the same thing. A nice glass of that Apple Kool-Aid you keep drinking will go nicely with the cookies. Is it really that hard to type xda?