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  • Orbit vs Overboard - iPhone Expose Wannabe Showdown


    Many of us got really excited when Orbit was first released. It allowed us to quickly get an Springboard Exposť-like look at our apps on each page. This was a first for the iPhone in Jailbreak Land and nothing new for many Mac OS X users. Being the only of it's kind, it was released to the Cydia Store at a price of $1.99.

    Don't get me wrong, I love the work that Steven has put into his projects. I absolutely love Stacks and give kudos to his efforts. However, we have a contender now that looks to out perform Orbit.

    On Friday, we saw the release of Overboard by Ryan Petrich (creator of Action Menu, Inspell, HapticPro, LiveClock, Rotation Inhibitor). Overboard is another Expose wannabe, but outperforms Orbit rather quickly. We also get support for Winterboard themes, full customization, and multiple ways to access it. For example this has become a rather handy replacement for my home button. In fact, I'm so impressed I don't know if I'll ever remove it. You can even create an icon on the springboard, or use the pinch gesture to activate it. The choice is yours.

    Now here is the biggest kicker. For those of you on a 3GS you might not have noticed, but on the 3G, Orbit loads ridiculously slow the first time. Each page slowly appears one by one. Sometimes it would even get glitched out and not let me get back to my pages.

    Overboard on the other hand has completely blown by Orbit in terms of speed. The incredibly fast load time is almost instantaneous on my 3G and when activated from the home button performs outstandingly (is that word?). Of course in terms of speed, this is on first load after a respring, as Orbit caches after it loads.

    Some of you may not use Winterboard, which defeats a few of the perks that Overboard has. Orbit uses the Icon-Small.png as the mini icons, so those are easy to change without Winterboard, allowing for a better compatibility with those who prefer BossPaper over Winterboard.

    However, that being said, Orbit seems to have lost support as Steven has a lot on his plate right now, so Overboard might be your best bet now.

    Update: Orbit also releases an update that adds home button support, search page, theme support, dynamic sizing and performance improvement.

    Overboard Screenshots

    This article was originally published in forum thread: Orbit vs Overboard - iPhone Expose Wannabe Showdown started by nickhesson View original post
    Comments 89 Comments
    1. SnowLeo's Avatar
      SnowLeo -
      Is this compatible with themes that use springjumps or landscape themes? (Like iNspired)
    1. fabo82's Avatar
      fabo82 -
      overboard is da shizznit!!!!!!
    1. rhekt's Avatar
      rhekt -
      havnt had orbit. only because of its initial shortcomings. overboard works great. with features most spoke about and desired by myself included, that are not on orbit.

      the only minor complaint is the pinch gesture. slightly hard to initiate. say VS. an expand gesture or slide gesture. just my opinion. whatya all think?

      Quote Originally Posted by shwnwlkns View Post
      You guys paid for something that is a complete ripoff of someone elses work. Not even coded from scratch, but stolen and added features. Good job on being behind the curve, guys.
      should do your research:

      steven stole this from ocean engineering> you tube. check it out son.
    1. matthew1111's Avatar
      matthew1111 -
      Overboard? Nice. I hope it has a trial version, though probably not...
    1. shwnwlkns's Avatar
      shwnwlkns -
      Quote Originally Posted by rhekt View Post
      havnt had orbit. only because of its initial shortcomings. overboard works great. with features most spoke about and desired by myself included, that are not on orbit.

      the only minor complaint is the pinch gesture. slightly hard to initiate. say VS. an expand gesture or slide gesture. just my opinion. whatya all think?



      should do your research:

      steven stole this from ocean engineering> you tube. check it out son.
      Sigh. How ignorant can people be? Ocean Engineering asked Steven if he could do this and he took the challenge. Ryan on the other hand stole Orbit, by code, and adding things. Good job, I guess.

      Also, you look foolish when you call someone son and you're, what? Maybe 15.
    1. Nick Hesson's Avatar
      Nick Hesson -
      I'd love to update this post to compate Orbit 1.1 but the developer won't get back to me. Will do when I can get my hands on it. This should be interesting.

      Is there proof that the coding was stolen for this?
    1. rhekt's Avatar
      rhekt -
      [QUOTE=shwnwlkns;5039146]Sigh. How ignorant can people be? Ocean Engineering asked Steven if he could do this and he took the challenge. Ryan on the other hand stole Orbit, by code, and adding things. Good job, I guess.

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      please now.....not only had they allready done it...they had done it better. better yet...all the features ilustrated in their app [that werent in orbit] are in overboard....

      who are you really shwnwlkns?...hiding behind 3 post acting like a forum guru.
    1. jordandev's Avatar
      jordandev -
      Had Orbit. Like it. Got Overboard. Like it way better.
    1. shwnwlkns's Avatar
      shwnwlkns -
      How can I be hiding? They didn't do anything. Please read what stolen means, and then you should be able to speak wisely, at least I hope. If I steal a burger from McDonalds and put bacon on it, it doesn't make me a great creator,
    1. metaserph's Avatar
      metaserph -
      Just installed Orbit 1.1 from Cydia. Much improved!!
    1. rel1215's Avatar
      rel1215 -
      Quote Originally Posted by shwnwlkns View Post
      How can I be hiding? They didn't do anything. Please read what stolen means, and then you should be able to speak wisely, at least I hope. If I steal a burger from McDonalds and put bacon on it, it doesn't make me a great creator,
      i don't know what that guy meant by hiding.....but you sure are annoying......sorry, but overboard currently performs better than orbit....so you're not going to convince anyone here.....regardless of your claims....the fact that there are two apps doing the same thing means that the devs will be forced to keep improving otherwise lose out on sales.....thats good for all of us.......mere claims of theft won't fly.....show some proof if you want to sway people.....otherwise, stop whining.
    1. shwnwlkns's Avatar
      shwnwlkns -
      I'm not out to sway. Hell, I don;t need to. Orbit made 3000 dollars so far, and Overboard hasn't made 100. Orbit 1.1 was released, much improved, more features, quicker boot times. Weird, Orbit seems to be better, but Overboard is still behind.

      Also, it seems the stereotype of people from southern states having bad punctuation and grammar is true with your constant use of ellipsis's. Now THATS annoying.
    1. organik's Avatar
      organik -
      Overboard. By far. A bigger question for me though, is the lock screen war...so many options now, but which is best? And which will be best after a bit more development?
    1. mavisxp's Avatar
      mavisxp -
      Quote Originally Posted by shwnwlkns View Post
      You guys, are pretty slow. orbit 1.1 has been submitted as has 5 more features than Overboard, which isn't even new, but a complete rip of Orbit with added features that were already shown by Steven.



      Twitter / Steve Troughton-Sm?: Am really happy; have some ...
      Whatever. Steve is a childish liar with the attention span of a toddler - first it was 'home button support next week!' over a month ago, then it was 'still working on it - coming soon' followed by 'if you keep on asking about it I'll skip 1.1 and make you wait for 2.0!' (highly mature, this guy) which was followed by 'waiting on artwork now, out of my control' and then today 'I was waiting to see how much better Overboard was, but they'll have exactly the same features. Orbit 1.1 submitted' ... Seriously, WTF? Did this moron go to the Acme school of customer relations or what? He lies to customers regularly and in an apparent effort to stall for time has a habit of blaming others for his lack of focus. My two-year-old takes more responsibilty for his actions actions than this chump.

      I bought both Orbit and Overboard, and HIGHLY recommend the latter. Steven Troughton-Smith will never get another red ****ing cent from me and I sincerely hope his immaturity and inability to finish what he starts makes an impression on others.
    1. mnoraznan's Avatar
      mnoraznan -
      Orbit 1.1 is good.
      Dynamic sizing, genius. It instantly fills out the whole space.
      (No need for options to choose columns, way smarter)
      Finally, my suave icons are showing.
      The boot time has improved, significantly faster.
      there's also search page and home button support.

      So guys, if you've already have Orbit, check out the update first before wasting your money on Overboard...
    1. mavisxp's Avatar
      mavisxp -
      What's with the Spotlight page in Orbit now? Overboard gives you the option to show/hide it, but Orbit doesn't.

      Kinda lame.

      edit: Again with the lying and misrepresentation. I've attached a screenshot of the follow-up to the tweet posted above, in which Steven Troughton-Smith proclaims that Orbit and Overboard have the "same features" ... Now, unless I'm blind, there's no way to change Orbit's settings. By settings I mean the double-tap home button binding, and the Spotlight page showing in Orbit. Overboard allows you to control both of these. It also allows you to hide the app icon, invoke with a pinch gesture, and theme the app. Orbit doesn't seem to allow any of these things.

      Very lame. Not so much stroughtonsmith's apparent inability to figure out how to add this stuff, but the fact that he flat-out LIES about it. Not cool at all
      .
    1. rpetrich's Avatar
      rpetrich -
      Quote Originally Posted by SnowLeo View Post
      Is this compatible with themes that use springjumps or landscape themes? (Like iNspired)
      It's compatible with SpringJumps, but I can't be sure it's compatible with landscape themes. If landscape themes are just regular themes with sideways graphics then yes; otherwise maybe. Link?

      Quote Originally Posted by nickhesson View Post
      Is there proof that the coding was stolen for this?
      No, there is no proof; why would I steal code when I've proven that I am capable of building my own? Anyone suggesting that my app was stolen or is based on Orbit is flat out wrong.
    1. jrentzke's Avatar
      jrentzke -
      I first bought Orbit. Found it very useful, but a bit slow at times on my 3Gs. It would also often 'miss' a page when loading up (always the page it was loading from). Then I bought Overboard, and the speed increase is significant. I like the selectable options in Overboard, like showing / hiding its icon on the Springboard, showing the doc, various ways of initiating, etc.
      Orbit 1.1 seems faster than v1.0, but no selectable options (I don't want to see the search screen, and I don't want to use the home button double tap for Orbit)
      So for now Overboard seems better to me in speed & functionality.
    1. politicalslug's Avatar
      politicalslug -
      Quote Originally Posted by rpetrich View Post
      It's compatible with SpringJumps, but I can't be sure it's compatible with landscape themes. If landscape themes are just regular themes with sideways graphics then yes; otherwise maybe. Link?

      No, there is no proof; why would I steal code when I've proven that I am capable of building my own? Anyone suggesting that my app was stolen or is based on Orbit is flat out wrong.


      You are both incredibly talented coders. You both are well aware of this fact. Those who are calling you a thief are nothing short of untalented losers, who see one program and assume everything else is a copy. You have nothing to prove to them. I thank BOTH of you for contributing to the iPhone platform. Without people like BOTH of you, I'd still be stuck on a motorola RAZR. Thanks for making the iPhone great!!!!
    1. rhekt's Avatar
      rhekt -
      id like to set things straight. as i was involved in the conversation with shwnwlkns. i was NOT indicating that [rpetrich] had any shady dealings whatsoever w/ his new app overboard. i was merely questioning shwnwlkns claims to stevens authority and assumed copyrights to this technologies origins with orbit.